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Posted By MyWayOnNow 4 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsPresident Bush asked Americans to pay tribute to veterans by pausing on Memorial Day for "a moment of remembrance."
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silvera4 months, 2 weeks ago
The despicable little cretin should be horsewhipped and run out of town for the way he's treated the veterans. I hope he drowns in his own crocodile tears.
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silvera4 months, 2 weeks ago
Thanks conRstupid for the usual intelligent retort, but yes he has. It took him 7 years to figure out that they were not getting proper medical care at Veteran's hospitals. He has not once addressed the abnormally high suicide rates among returning veterans. He has not once acknowledged the abnormally high rate of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome among returning veterans. He supports cutting their benefits including the GI bill. His stop loss program has returned many to the "War" 4 or 5 times. His preemptive, unnecessary, ill-conceived, "War" has cost the lives of over 4,000 veterans and maimed more than 30,000 more. But wait. he gave up golf for them. What a caring guy, eh?
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silvera4 months, 2 weeks ago
Thanks conRstupid for the usual intelligent retort, but yes he has. It took him 7 years to figure out that they were not getting proper medical care at Veteran's hospitals. He has not once addressed the abnormally high suicide rates among returning veterans. He has not once acknowledged the abnormally high rate of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome among returning veterans. He supports cutting their benefits including the GI bill. His stop loss program has returned many to the "War" 4 or 5 times. His preemptive, unnecessary, ill-conceived, "War" has cost the lives of over 4,000 veterans and maimed more than 30,000 more. But wait. he gave up golf for them. What a caring guy, eh?
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bubba24 months, 2 weeks ago
Yeah ... Right ... Bush wants the taxpayers to spend money on his "war" but not on actual support of the troops that fight his "war" for him.
Bush has blocked increases for troops' pay raises - he has blocked increases in VA funding for years - only RECENTLY did he release some additional funds, ONLY after public pressure.
Bush says some nice words a couple of times a year (Memorial Day and Veterans Day), but his actions against VA funding and troops raises speak MUCH louder than his words.
http://www.slate.com/id/2161386/
http://choice.blog.com/1536540/
http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/re...
http://www.mywire.com/pubs/AFP/2008/05/22/6459100
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/23/military-pa...
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?786756...
http://www.citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AI...
http://www.vawatchdog.org/07/nf07/nfJUN07/nf061...
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SwampFox-82nd4 months, 2 weeks ago
LAF, may I offer an illustration on the respect our beloved president has toward are Brothers and Sisters in Iraq? He said in a speech how cool our fighting forces have been. He has extended their rotation no fewer than four-times: 9-months, twelve-months, fourteen-months, contingency rotation (indefinite). With those who return, he wanted the good doctors at Walter Reed to stop diagnosing PTSD. His new disease is called "Unable To Adjust." Why? PTSD is cover by the VA, "Unable To Adjust" is not covered. Then while promising better care at Walter Reed, simultaneously vetoing their benefits as "cost cutting," and tax and spending vermin who only what to tax the good people of ______ (fill in the blank), and pork barrel Democrats.
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kedirian4 months, 2 weeks ago
Dubya can be assured of one thing: The American people will remember.....
They'll remember a "leader" standing before a banner declaring "Mission Acomplished" - some 5-years and thousands of deaths and maimed-for-life young men and women ago;
They'll remember the braggadocio of this President and his Veep while they let Osama Bin Laden slip away;
They'll remember the immature and puerile way in which this Commander-in-Chief "led" his troops into an ill-fated, totally mis-planned adventure in Irak;
They'll remember - for generations to come! - the irresponsible ballooninng of our National Debt under this misbegotten Executive;
They'll remember how Dubya and his sinister Veep preyed on young, idealistic Americans and appealed to their patriotism to carry out their dishonest policies;
They'll remember alright, many of them until the day they die!
And they will know that leadership once compromised and lost will not be easily recovered....
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Jaydee404 months, 2 weeks ago
Would now till the election is over be to long for his moment of silence? The shrub is always finding new way to disgrace himself and the government he represents.
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SwampFox-82nd4 months, 2 weeks ago
Sadly, noise distracts our beloved prez. Damned, want the world to see his boomerang slice to the left, off the tee?
Well, he damned sure doesn't!!!
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jaern4 months, 2 weeks ago
I'm surprised GWB didn't tell the American public that the best way we can honor our vets is to take long drives this weekend. With travel down 25% this holiday weekend, its really gotta be disappointing to his big oil buddies.
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Poulenc4 months, 2 weeks ago
"...Bush had several suggestions for how to honor the sacrifices of those who have fought for the United States - place a flag at a veteran's grave, go to a battlefield or say a prayer...."
The mind reels, the hart sinks, the anger rises.
We can best honor veterans by trying to eliminate (or, realistically, attempt to curtail) the enterprise--war--that gave them their sad-noble status.
It is Mr. Bush who should "go to a battlefield," pause, and contemplate what he (or rather his administration) has done to further human suffering.
Not that he would. Not that he will. Not that he even wrote the words attributed to him in this article.
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tchef4 months, 2 weeks ago
There are plenty of other stories posted about honoring our veterans. The fact the this one speaks of the President who sent our armed forces into an unnecessary war and is keeping them there while wanting to deny them the proper care when they come home is the reason this thread is full of political rants.
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bubba24 months, 2 weeks ago
The soldiers and veterans need MORE than "a few minutes of 'our' time to honor them".
They need DECENT pay, they need DECENT health care and disability benefits, and more.
The homeless vets need help. The vets with PTSD and that are bankrupt need our help.
But what does Bush - and most of the politicians - do? Say a few very nice words a couple of times a year, and otherwise continue to play their political and monetary games to serve themselves and their corporate buddies instead of providing CONCRETE support to the people who put their lives on the line for this country.
"It is illogical to put a cap on VA funding when it is impossible to put a cap on the number of those wounded and injured in service to their country." Larry Scott (VAWatchdog.org)
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raats66624 months, 2 weeks ago
Bush would be wise to keep his idea to himself as to how we can honor our vets.
I have an idea on how to honor those who have sacrificed for this countries safety, credibility, respect and honor.....give it BACK to them!
Give it back to them by bringing them home from a dishonest, illegal war that has NOT made America safer and has reduced Americas respect and credibility in the eyes of the world.
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mesodude4 months, 2 weeks ago
We should also *remember* that we have Bush to thank for all those vets who will return to find that they are homeless and be forced to jump through hoops to collect their benefits. We'll have a real day of remembrance on November 4, 2008. Elmer Fudd McCain is just more of Bush. Don't do it.
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Poulenc4 months, 2 weeks ago
Well, Klarissa, here we get into the debate about separating the dancer form the dance: can you?
The war in Iraq--an artifact, let's call it, of the present administration--is a particularly egregious example of how those whom we remember tomorrow (or should)are normally at the mercy of the leaders who send them into battle.
In any case, this article invokes Bush's words, is about them; his comments--as vacuous as they usually are--still do not occur in a vacuum.
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1basque14 months, 2 weeks ago
I don't care for this administration...but God Bless and keep our troops and their families from harms way !
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Poulenc4 months, 2 weeks ago
Would those who keep negging anti-Bush, anti- his administration, kindly enumerate his virtues? And its?
Our at least enumerate what Bush and Co. have done and are doing to better the lives of returned vets?
Thank you.
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Wolfie20074 months, 2 weeks ago
I pray for great blessings on all our men and women in the Armed Forces of the United States of America and their families and loved ones. I can't thank them enough for their service for my family and myself.
I pray for all those who served in the past. Our debt to them for keeping us free is too great to ever repay.
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hyperbola4 months, 2 weeks ago
The Nuremberg trials established that soldiers are guilty if they obey illegal orders that amount to war crimes. In this situation we have large numbers of war criminals in our military - starting with Zioncon patsies like Petraeus. We should be supporting the american military by putting the war criminals on trial and standing by those (like this one) who really represent american democracy.
Support Our Troops Ã;¢;; or Judge Them?
.. Which brings me to a military man who did pick his battle and, because of his heroism in picking it, deserves our support. That man is Morris Davis, who retired as a Colonel in the Air Force in October 2007 over the use of torture to extract information to be used at trial. Davis was the chief prosecutor at the U.S. detention center at GuantÃ;Æ;Ã;¡namo Bay, Cuba. In an impassioned op-ed in the New York Times (February 17), former Colonel Davis wrote:
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hyperbola4 months, 2 weeks ago
"My policy as the chief prosecutor for the military commissions at Guantánamo was that evidence derived through waterboarding was off-limits. That should still be our policy. To do otherwise is not only an affront to American justice, it will potentially put prosecutors at risk for using illegally obtained evidence.
"Unfortunately, I was overruled on the question, and I resigned my position to call attention to the issue â;; efforts that were hampered by my being placed under a gag rule and ordered not to testify at a Senate hearing. While some high-level military and civilian officials have rightly expressed indignation on the issue, the current state can be described generally as indifference and inaction."
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hyperbola4 months, 2 weeks ago
Former Colonel Davis has said that he will testify as a defense witness in the trial of Osama bin Laden's driver, who has been detained at Guantánamo since 2002. Davis alleges that Pentagon general counsel William Haynes said in August 2005 that any acquittals of terrorism suspects at Guantánamo would make the U.S. look bad by making the proceedings look unfair. And what was Haynes's response? According to Davis, Haynes said, "We can't have acquittals, we've got to have convictions."
Colonel Davis is not alone in his campaign against injustice. In 2006, three high-level officers from Guantánamo Bay came to the Naval Postgraduate School to give a talk on the need for Guantánamo. I went there prepared to ask some tough questions. I didn't need to. U.S. military officers did the job quite nicely....
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