Ted Kennedy has malignant brain tumor »
Posted By coreyspring 4 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsDoctors for the Massachusetts Democrat say tests conducted after Sen. Edward Kennedy suffered a seizure this weekend show a tumor in his left parietal lobe. His treatment will be decided after more tests but the usual course includes combinations of radiation and chemotherapy.
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libsRfunny4 months, 3 weeks ago
Given his age and the nature of the treatment, I would think this is the end of his political career. Good luck to him.
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coreyspring4 months, 3 weeks ago
CNN has their own (longer) report here
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/20/kennedy....
"White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said President Bush was "deeply saddened" by the news and would keep the senator in his prayers."
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Blackacereturn4 months, 3 weeks ago
May god bless him, He is a great American and i wish him and his family well! May god be with him!
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BoxMonkey4 months, 3 weeks ago
Shouldn't this be under " Humor " . I mean I would never wish harm to anyone , but if this had to happen , what a person to have it happen to . Very Ironic . The whole Kennedy clan seems to have been cast under some sort of spell . Maybe back to Papa Joe's bootlegging days . It was all bloodmoney anyhow .
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Goppy4 months, 3 weeks ago
Hmm. Unwillin to forget Mary Jo ... although you werent there ... but EASY to forget Oliver Norths crimes, G Gordon LIddys crimes, Newt Gingrichs hypocrisy, and of course, our own Goerge W. Bush causin the death of untold thousands through bold faced lies and sheer incompetence.
I get it ... anytiem a Libural mucks things up ... its eternal damnation ... but anytiem one of our Conservative shills mucks things up its ... its not their fault.
Hey! We got an ironclad way to protect our morally vacant ways!
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Georgia504 months, 3 weeks ago
I think you are confusing that which may be adjudicated with your opinion.
Liddy did time. He picked a lock.
Martha Stewart did time. She lied in a federal investigation in which she otherwise did nothing wrong.
Roger Clinton did time for cocaine. Half-brother Slick, though mentioned in the same evidence that put Roger in the slammer, skated thanks to incredibly well-timed advice to watch his steps.
Not a single person had to die for the above to do time.
Mary Jo died. Kennedy modeled that line from the Eagles song: "...breaks [his] heart to think of others only."
On the other hand, perhaps you can identify one single American citizen who has benefited from the fact that Teddy breathes. And I don't mean Big Dig contractors, either.
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BoxMonkey4 months, 3 weeks ago
I figured I'd get these kind of responses . I never cared for the Kennedy's , really . They are all a bunch of crooks . JFK jr. was the second choice pick by his father since his brother died in the war . And of course this is a forum of sorts and I am allowed to voice my opinion and I'd be surprised if everyone agreed with me . It's what makes us all differnt , our opinions . So , thank you for responding and have a great day . I don't believe in karma anyhow .
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Dionys4 months, 3 weeks ago
"Given his age and the nature of the treatment, I would think this is the end of his political career. Good luck to him. "
There have been plenty of sick, older Republicans who held onto their office with a death grip. Why twist this difficult time for the Kennedy family into a political rant.
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libsRfunny4 months, 3 weeks ago
"political rant"
You are the only one twisting anything into a political rant.
The man is 76 and about to have radiation aimed at his brain and go through the debilitating effects of chemotherapy. You figure it out if you have the wherewithal to do so.
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ind064 months, 3 weeks ago
You obviously know absolutely ZERO about what it means to have radiation therapy for a brain tumor.
Most patients remain fully functional, if a little tired, during such a procedure. Seizures are easily controlled with a battery of anti-seizure drugs like Tegretol and Dilantin.
This is a very serious, quite possibly non-surviveable, diagnosis and Senator Kennedy may CHOOSE to end his political career because of it but it will almost certainly NOT force him from office if he does not wish to leave.
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ind064 months, 3 weeks ago
Apparently, ningyo is an EXPERT on brain tumors and disagrees with my first hand experiences. Please, ningyo, enlighten me on what you consider to be knowledge.
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uncle-dave4 months, 3 weeks ago
Arlen Specter is on his second round of chemotherapy after a recurrence his Hodgkin's Disease . He is slightly older than Senator Kennedy and he hasn't missed a beat during his treatments.
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slate4 months, 3 weeks ago
The Chemo will make him very Ill, I had a friend with lung cancer and I didn't see him for just a few weeks and he didn't even look like the same hulk of a man I knew. Sadly he didn't last long, sometimes I wonder if the Chemo actually helped or sped things up. I do wish Ted well, I'd never send bad Karma out to anyone, simply because of politics.
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lfergie8124 months, 3 weeks ago
I had a very close friend that was strong and able to do anything he wished and was diagnosed with lung cancer. Three days after chemo he was in the hospital on his death bed with a breathing tube in his throat. The hospital in question was suppose to be one of the best around but I would have to say he would have lived longer without the treatment. This has nothing to do with Kennedy condition but it does bring into question about the treatment he may receive and the benefits from it.
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Beau78904 months, 3 weeks ago
The radiation may not leave him incapacitated, but sadly, a malignant glioma does not have a good prognosis. Further or subsequent growth in the parietal lobe can affect Kennedy's ability to integrate information, which I'd say is very important to do what politicans do.
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BB644 months, 3 weeks ago
I think you will find the Senator has something on the order of Glioblastoma Multiforme. It's one of the more common forms of brain cancer. The treatments at best buys the patients a little time but rarely do you see anyone making it over 1 year from diagnosis. There are a few, but a very few. It's an insidious disease that is very resilient to most treatments. Given the Senator's age and other health issue, his prognosis isn't promising.
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tanglang4 months, 3 weeks ago
I'm not an expert on Tumors, however one of my older brothers has had nearly 40 of them cut out of his body throughout his life. Including one that took most of his calf muscle. He has been living with an inoperable brain tumor for 18 years.
At this point we do not know if Teddy's tumor can even be removed. So we should not be so quick to say what he will face with treatment.
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DebraJMSmith4 months, 3 weeks ago
tanglang,
It is cancer. That will be fatal, most likely. His age will go against him too.
Everyone who saw my posts on the other thread about him, knows that I am just glad to get him out of office, because of his voting for abortions, time and time again.
I said one prayer for his "salvation" in all of this. Other than that, if he would go back to having his voice/vote go towards more killing of the unborn, I hope the Lord keeps him from going back to his "job" as a U.S. Senator.
I hope that before Christians pray for this man's healing (without including the need for his salvation and a true turn around), that they stop and think about what he will do once back in his office of Senator.
I'll leave it at that,
Debra...
InformingChristians
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tkyrchncs4 months, 3 weeks ago
Blasphemy. You are commanded by your Savior to LOVE. If this is an example of how you think Christians should speak or write you do not know what a Christian is.
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DebraJMSmith4 months, 3 weeks ago
Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
The Lord hates the soul of the wicked. Read it for yourself.
Did you feel sorry for Saddam when he was put to death? Most people did not feel sorry for Saddam because Saddam did such wickedness in his country.
We all have a line that we draw. I draw a line with the killing of the unborn. Are we to only seek change in other nations' bad leaderships and do nothing about our own? --kind of hypocritical.. don't ya think?
Scripture speaks of God hating the hands that shed innocent blood. God also speaks against those who do nothing to help the helpless.
I speak out against the wicked and I pray that God will remove the wicked from government. Should God choose to remove any or all of them, is up to God. And how God chooses to do so, is up to God.
It is true, though, that the best thing would be for Kennedy to get saved and denounce what he has done.
Debra...
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tkyrchncs4 months, 3 weeks ago
Perhaps you should read your own scripture quote, My Dear. "The LORD trieth...." Not Debra, the LORD. I certainly feel sorry for anyone put to death at the hands of men, for evil has been perpetrated on them. Things were bad enough in Iraq with him in charge; with us there they are immeasurably worse. Jesus commanded but two things, and said that they encompassed all the law, and both of those things were to love. God's prerogatives are His own, but yours are limited to obedience to His commandments to love, or to disobeying Him.
I agree with you wholeheartedly that abortion is evil. What I disagree with you about is that our government should make it illegal. It is unwarranted interference with a woman's right to be in command of her own body, and it would do but little to lower the incidence of abortion.
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DebraJMSmith4 months, 3 weeks ago
Read the second half of that verse.
Also, we Christians are called to love each other, not the wicked. If God hates the soul of the wicked, we followers of God, surely are not called to love such.
And I disagree with you about murder (abortion) being legal --it should not be. It is not the woman's body being murdered, but rather the baby's. It is interesting that you would not want Saddam killed, but you are okay with abortion being legal.
My point about Saddam, is that few people felt sorry for him. But all these people pity Kennedy, when Kennedy is partially responsible for hundreds of thousands of brutal murders of the unborn in our nation --via his votes.
Debra...
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tkyrchncs4 months, 3 weeks ago
43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Matthew 5:43-48, NIV
Women's bodies are often killed or gravely and permanently injured by pregnancy. At the very least they are permanently changed by it. If anyone did to a woman from the outside what children often do from the inside, you would judge her justified in killing the one who did it.
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pianojan4 months, 3 weeks ago
OK, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DANGER TO WOMEN? Women die from legal abortions! A good friend of mine died from one. I saw her for the last time the day before she left, but I had no idea she was leaving town or getting an abortion. Had I known, I would have begged her not to.
Kathryn was a 20-year-old, Texas resident who went to Los Angeles to get a 16-week abortion. She was admitted to Bel Air Hospital for the saline abortion on September 1, 1972. By the next morning, she had a fever of 102° and she delivered a dead fetus about noon that day. Kathryn had a "fretful" night, went into shock early the next morning and was pronounced dead at 9:40 a.m. on September 3, 1972. The cause of death was from shock that started from the loss of blood to an ovary, which resulted in gangrene. (Los Angeles County Coroner's Report, Case # 72-9587; "Reports on abortion deaths called lax," Los Angeles Times, Part II, November 10, 1972
To be continued......
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pianojan4 months, 3 weeks ago
continued...............
I played the music at her funeral after she was shipped back home a week after her death due to the mandatory CA autopsy. I was 22 at the time. I went early enough to tuck yellow daisies (her favorite flower) into her cold, dead hands. Her devastated mother told me that before her death, Kathy had cried out to an attending priest begging for forgiveness for killing her baby. Her mother never forgave herself for buying that plane ticket for her daughter.
One out of every 6,000 women who have an abortion after 21 weeks gestation die.
One out of every 166,000 abortions ends in death.
Just under one out of every 100 abortions has a serious complication.
These figures may be low due to under-reporting of deaths due to abortions.
Have you ever even educated yourself on abortion procedures?
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DebraJMSmith4 months, 3 weeks ago
Sure thing, tkychncs, you clearly do not know how to discern Scripture. If that Scripture means what you think it means, then we could not fight those who are hurting even our own child. Think about it. Would you just stand by and love and pray for someone pulling your child's limbs off his body?
Abortion is a brutal murder.
Debra...
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tkyrchncs4 months, 3 weeks ago
If we really WERE a Christian nation we would have no such worries, because we would be known everywhere for our tolerance and generosity and love. But it seems we can justify all manner of atrocious behavior with snippets from the Bible, including murder of those already standing on two feet. Do you think the early Christian martyrdoms were not witnessed by family members and fellow believers?
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tkyrchncs4 months, 3 weeks ago
God most certainly IS tolerant of wickedness. Reread the Matthew. The rain and the sun fall on the righteous and the wicked. God gives us free will to believe or not. Our judegement does not come in this world, except by other people who are told specifically by God that they will pay for doing so. Debra, put down the shovel and crawl out of the hole you are digging.
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pianojan4 months, 2 weeks ago
NOW who is twisting scripture? That is one of the most bizarre statements I have read on here yet. Yes, the rain falls on the just and the unjust alike, but how could anyone possibly twist that to mean that God is tolerant of wickedness? You obviously aren't equipped to debate the subject, so you're just playing games here.
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pianojan4 months, 3 weeks ago
tkyrchncs wrote:
I agree with you wholeheartedly that abortion is evil. What I disagree with you about is that our government should make it illegal. It is unwarranted interference with a woman's right to be in command of her own body, and it would do but little to lower the incidence of abortion.
My response:
If it is evil, then it is evil, period, and should be illegal. It is evil because it is murder, plain and simple. Don't be double-minded! Murder is illegal, and unborn human babies deserve the same protection as human beings already living outside of the womb.
The unborn baby is a SEPARATE being from the mother. The mother can't decide to murder a separate human being inside of her body without it being called murder!
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tkyrchncs4 months, 3 weeks ago
I think there are many evils which are made worse by being made illegal, and this is one of them. Apparently due to difference in laws, the poor woman's mother found it necessary to become an accomplice in this. I have made no argument about the procedure, but as everyone knows it gets more gruesome, and more dangerous to the mother, the longer you wait. I am sorry for your friend, and sorry for your loss. Even had she had no problems at all, I would still consider it an evil decision. But until very late in pregnancy it is safer for the mother than natural childbirth, and I stand by what I said: nobody would permit anyone OUTSIDE a woman to do what a child INSIDE a woman often does, and the decision to carry one must be hers alone.
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pianojan4 months, 3 weeks ago
tkyrchncs wrote:
"I stand by what I said: nobody would permit anyone OUTSIDE a woman to do what a child INSIDE a woman often does, and the decision to carry one must be hers alone."
But that still isn't logical. If it's evil, it's evil, period. PREGNANCY isn't evil, and I went through 4 of them. It is NOT a woman's right to murder a separate human being inside of her. It should be JUST AS illegal as it is to kill an "inconvenient" child that has already been born.
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tkyrchncs4 months, 3 weeks ago
As you should know better than I, pregnancy is often more than just inconvenient. What I have said IS logical and what YOU have said is not. Laws are (or should be) about getting on with our neighbors, who seldom share comp;etely our views about anything, especially morality. Because something is evil IN YOUR MIND OR IN MINE does not automatically mean it should be illegal for our neighbors. Wisdom for the salvation of your soul is EMPHATICALLY NOT the same thing as wisdom for governing a nation.
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pianojan4 months, 2 weeks ago
You're still not being logical. You said abortion is evil, and then rambled on about how treacherous a child can be on the insides of the woman carrying it. Things aren't evil because they are "in your mind or in mine", they are evil because they are evil by God's standards. You apparently don't believe in absolute truth either, as you sound like one who adheres to moral relativity. By THAT standard, Hitler could be excused of doing evil because he thought he was doing a good thing and saving the human race.
And I wasn't referring to wisdom for the salvation of a soul........I was speaking of evil being evil, period. I'll say it again, according to most people, Hitler was evil, but according to Hitler and his comrades, he believed that what he was doing was good. So who decides what is evil? Man or God? There is only one standard that doesn't change with the wind or the times or anything else, and that is the Lord's.
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tkyrchncs4 months, 2 weeks ago
WE decide (or at least elect and appoint those who do) what is necessary for our relations with others, even though we will never all agree about what is evil, or which of two choices is the lesser evil. In many cases we have decided that people may do things that a large majority find evil, because of freedom of speech, the press, property rights, etc. Our religions are not the same, and our morals are not the same, and whether or not they are, they are different from the law and should not govern the law. I do not believe that any Christian is ever justified in intentionally killing another human. However, if you are as yet unborn, I may legally kill you. If you offer a mortal threat to me, or to others in my presence, I may legally kill you. If you invade my home, I may legally kill you. If you kill someone, our society may legally kill you. Just an example of where my morals and the law do not coincide.
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tkyrchncs4 months, 2 weeks ago
All that is necessary of the law is that it permit the majority of us to pursue simultaneously our own happiness in peace. This should not, in my opinion, extend to telling all the females in America that they must carry any child they conceive, especially considering that pregnancy and child-birth are life-altering and potentially fatal situations. There is nothing wrong with my morality about abortion in anyone's view: it is, in my opinion, evil. I will not participate in it in any way for anyone. I will not cause anyone to want one. I will attempt to dissuade any woman over whom I have any influence from having one. But I also will not restrict anyone who wants one, or participate in restricting it. It is not my decision to make, nor is it yours, except for yourself.
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pianojan4 months, 2 weeks ago
tkyrchncs........you keep talking in circles. You keep forgetting that the unborn baby is a SEPARATE human being, not the MOTHER'S cells or tissue, but a unique individual with its own DNA! It IS my decision to fight to protect little babies from being tortured to death in their mother's wombs until their little hearts stop beating.
The unborn human baby is protected by the Constitution, and the mother has NO Constitutional right to murder it in the womb. NONE. Abortion is not protected by the Consitution.....the unborn human BABY is! If you look at the very foundation of this United States, you will see it clearly written in plain English exactly what our laws are based on!
And choosing the "lesser" of two evils, is still choosing EVIL!
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tkyrchncs4 months, 2 weeks ago
I AGREE WITH YOU!!! ANY OTHER SEPARATE PERSON WHO DID TO A WOMAN WHAT THE CHILD SHE CARRIES DOES AND CAN DO, WOULD BE PUNISHED, PERHAPS WITH DEATH! This is not circular.
The unborn are NOT Constitutionally protected. No citizen's right to privacy supersedes any other citizen's right to life. If the unborn were citizens, they would be protected even from their own mothers, but they are not.
Our laws, whatever you may believe, ARE NOT based on Christian belief or scripture, and our Founders stated this specifically. We do NOT have the right to force a woman to carry a child if she does not wish to, and I will support no law or Constitutional amendment that attempts to do this. It is NOT the job of our gov't to enforce God's will, as YOU AND I PERCEIVE IT, on every citizen of America, but to govern so that the majority of us may pursue happiness AS EACH PERCEIVES IT in peace.
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DebraJMSmith4 months, 3 weeks ago
aceofspades1,
Please know that if and when you realize how wrong that statement is, I am not one to hold a grudge. Heck, actually, that does not even upset me to begin with --that you say such about me. It is to be expected. They hated Jesus, hence, I will not be so 'liked' myself.
Hope you have a blessed night,
Debra...
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aceofspades14 months, 3 weeks ago
Debra - I couldn't care less if you held a grudge or not , I don't expect to be holding my rear end to the flames - so I won't be seeing you in the here after
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pianojan4 months, 3 weeks ago
BronxBomber wrote:
"Stop quoting, and twisting the biblical chapters and verses to suit your malignant sense of spritual principles Debra.
We heard enough! Begone!"
It's amazing how INTOLERANT you are!! When confronted with the light of scripture that exposes the darkness, you and several others in here go on the attack. Debra is right on every count. She hasn't written one thing that goes against the Word of God.
And why do the attackers in here get their backs up.........tell me, exactly WHAT is she saying about YOU? I hear her talking about a man who spent his life in office making sure that unborn babies' little bodies would be ripped apart limb from limb, vacuumed and scraped out of their mother's wombs in bloody pieces and tossed in the trash.......and they FEEL that pain! He ALSO made sure that the infanticide rate among black babies would be among the highest. And then there's Mary Jo..........this is a totally unrepentant man.
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BronxBomber4 months, 3 weeks ago
I hope you play piano better then you comment, I don't mind if Debra is quoting chapter and verse as long as telling it straight. But she's not,she is twisting her commentary to suit her purposes by subterfuge to suit her own purpose, and deceit. That I won't tolerate. I can't imagine a christian would espouse on being so pithy as to not feeling any sense of compassion for a fellow human being yes even though he did sin, haven't you or I too? About abortion, that's irrelevant here in this post. We're talking about Ted Kennedy and what he's going through now. Write a post about abortion if you want to talk about it. All I'm saying is state the facts as they are, and NOT twist them through lies, and deceit via the Bible.
Good day!
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pianojan4 months, 2 weeks ago
Debra IS telling it straight, but you don't like it, so you say you won't "tolerate" it. And as far as the fact that we are ALL sinners, you continually miss the point that some repent and some don't. Kennedy has never repented for his part in the murder of millions of unborn babies, as he was still working very hard at keeping it legal, especially for poor blacks. Facts are facts, parts are parts, 2 plus 2 equals 4, simple math. Has Teddy been a champion of keeping abortion clinics in business or not? He has the blood of those babies on his hands, and he's proud of it.
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BronxBomber4 months, 3 weeks ago
You mean to tell me that you don't know the difference between the two sexes Debra? You ignorant on that too?
Duh...
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blinkers4 months, 3 weeks ago
DJS, you are informing no-one with this post, let alone Christians. Takes a lot for me to dish out a neg to a poster because I like to respect the time and effort he/she has taken to post ANYTHING, in the first place.
But you earned this one, for sure.
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BronxBomber4 months, 3 weeks ago
Then let God judge him, not YOU TWO!
Paul, then named Saul slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people! Yet the Good Lord saw fit to forgive him, change his name, and made him a servant of God.
In the Old Testament, Moses himself killed a man. Yet the Lord let Moses take his own people out of Egypt with His Devine Grace.
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BronxBomber4 months, 3 weeks ago
True Lincon, but as ugly as you all are painting Ted Kennedy, he is a Cathloic with his own set of principles, and whether you like him or not he stood by them, & you don't know anything about Kennedy to say for sure on whether or not he will reap the awards when he meets his maker, or suffer the consequences. Have some compassion for the man as he is battling for his life, he is a fellow human being and plus his family had they're share of timeless ends and misfortunes. Pray for them if there is any sense of decency, and compassion amongst you. For the Lord said that the Sun shines on both the good and the wicked.
Good day.
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BronxBomber4 months, 3 weeks ago
"...just the fact that those in the Bible who did wrong yet were blessed by the Lord was for a reason."
As is Ted Kennedy, he didn't meet an untimely end like some of his siblings, the Good Lord kept him around a lot longer for a reason. You can also say Ted was blessed, And???
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pianojan4 months, 3 weeks ago
Bronx, this whole judging thing is getting really old. Do you also have a problem with the courts judging a murderer? When the evidence is all there, is it fair to say that someone is guilty? Kennedy worked hard to keep abortion legal. This is a FACT, not a judgement, and I can judge his actions on record.
AND KENNEDY HAS NEVER REPENTED for his part in the extermination of millions of unborn babies suffering excruciating pain of saline/acid burning and mutilation while being tortured to death. Neither did he repent for what he did to Mary Jo and her family. He is unrepentant, and although a "public servant", he has not been a servant of the Lord.
Have you never even shed a tear over any of these little babies, most of who were never even buried? Have you seen how they are thrown into trash bins lined with black plastic? Do you just turn your head when you know of those who are responsible for such heinous and barbarian acts?
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pianojan4 months, 3 weeks ago
Wrong again, I can judge a man for his actions. If someone breaks into my house, I can judge him to be a robber. If my neighbor beats his children, I can judge him to be an abuser. And don't get me started on these evil perpetrators who rape and murder young children Do you not judge their actions as evil? What part of judging someone's actions do you not understand? OUR SOCIETY DEPENDS on judging the evil actions of people. CIVILIZED societies judge evil actions.
As far as the accounting when we stand before the Lord, yes, I am indeed satisfied with that.
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