News – A pending new message from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has been announced on Islamist message boards and addresses the 60th anniversary of the state of Israel, an Internet terrorism monitor said on Thursday.
From our flip-flopper in chief.
"But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."
- Bush, in remarks in a Press Availablity with the Press Travel Pool,
The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on
official White House site
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
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It is so wonderful to see Bush and Cheney's dear dear friend and colleague Osama back in the news.
Maybe they could all get together and count their war profits.
Forget the politics for a moment, until this noisome little worm (OBL) and ALL his ilk are removed from this planet, nobody can ever consider themselves safe (in ANY major city, plane, train or boat).....
I don't care what country, agency, president or armed force gets OBL & his mob, just as long as they are ALL got...
In case you hadn't noticed, I don't like terrorists.......
Why does it say "from a person that goes by the name Mansfield?"
THis whole story sounds like Israeli propaganda. If Mansfield was an agent, they certainly wouldn't say that- it would be giving away their established identity.
Its sounds like "Mansfield" does not exist in real life. Then the story is not creditable at all.
How does the story benefit Israel?
"How does the story benefit Israel? "
Beats the drums of "Israel is in danger" and gets all the "Israel is the victim" people up in arms and ready to invade whatever country BushCo's evanglical buddies say should be next.
I think it works against Israel by getting Americans to say, 'we're sick and tired of sending our money to that crazy place. maybe if we stopped supporting Israel so openly we'd be safer.'
Which side of the line do you fall on, drum beater or anti-interventionist?
Me? I'd like to see us less involved everywhere but in the USA.
I believe it helps Israel because McCain will get all the Jewish votes & the Jewish lobby will back him even more.
Which they are going to do even without these supposed pending messages.
I for one believe BL is dead.
I've found the majority of people here are to uninformed to understand how much our government's support of Israel costs us in terms of $'s & even military spending. Our government should be focused on making America a better place for us, not anything else. We should not be supporting Israel, or any other country, for that matter. The focus of our government should be taking care of us and of America, first and foremost.
You will not find a more solidly Democratic voting block then the Jewish vote, other than the Black vote of course. 75% of American Jews vote Democratic. Of course Reverend Wright has scared off some of the Jewish vote. If Obama is the nominee, as is likely, you will see a lot of Jews voting for McCain or staying home.
What we give out in foreign aid is peanuts though compared to what we spend in Iraq, which is about $2B a week. I think the US gives out about $10B in foreign aid a year. The largest shares are $3B to Israel and $2B to Egypt.
Pretty good website.
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/U...
We agree that the US has to focus more at home and less abroad. I was surprised to see that we give out less as a % than many other countries.
I think the majority of the Jewish population in the US will vote for McCain. I also believe the Jewish lobbyists will vote & support McCain. In my viewpoint, McCain would be 4 more yrs of Bush, which we can't afford.
As far as foreign aid is concerned, I'm not to concerned about which country we spend (more) on. That's not the real problem. I'm against spending on any foreign country, period. Unless a real natural disaster happens somewhere in a poverty stricken country whose government has a good human rights record (to ensure the civilians will benefit from the aid) & our government is helping with emergency aid. Maybe they could pay us back with free oranges or at least something.
Other then that, we have our own problems with lack of funding into our infrastructure, public school system, ss system, etc.
We have been giving less foreign aid as a percentage of GDP than many other countries ever since Reagan. At the same time, the sales of taxpayer-subsidized weapons to foreign countries has grown enormously to provide the kickbacks for our corrupt defense industries.
On the other hand, we provide zionism with many other forms of aid and their cost to the US has grown prohibitive.
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Hold it Osama. John McCain says he is coming after you and will either capture you or leave you dead by 2013!. Could you lend him a "walker" or "crutches" so he does not fall off the mountain cliffs in Western Pakistan? If he cannot do it, he has promised to check in to a Nursing Home and leave you alone.
Will McCain even live five more years?
Bin Laden has been dead for many years. Look at this picture from 2001 and then compare to any videos since. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html
Yeah, I remember Bush's bluster too. "He can run but he can't hide." Said 7 years ago. Bush outsourced the pursuit to a rag-tag group of Afghan warlords to keep bin Laden safe and sound so he could trot him out every time he needed a boogeyman to terrify the American public into letting him have his way.
Exactly! Well said, ET...
We let bin Laden go and pursue Saddam Hussein...that makes sense, right? Seven years later, still no bin Laden, and we're stuck in Iraq with no easy way out.
Great thinkers and leaders we have in this country of ours...
It does make sense if you realize that Bin Laden actually gave the neocons what they asked for...a New Pearl Harbor. They knew they could never implement the plans drawn up at PNAC without such an event. Note that once these plans were implemented within months Bush's approval nosedived, never to revive. Meaningless to Cheney and his brood. I am sure when Georgie came crying he simply told him: "So?"
Really....so what George, the polls don't matter, Haliburton profit is up 50%, oil is soaring, the rich are richer and with no inheritance tax, Haliburton is now headquartered in Dubai with no American Taxes to pay, just collect the taxes in no bid contracts.....
who cares about the polls from cannon fodder?
Recall that Bin Laden also wanted Bush re-elected. Most likely because he has fulfilled every one of his prophecies and will most likely continue to do so.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO410B.html
This must be better than candy and sex to Osama.
Hey NOSPIN DAVE. Your negs are completely meaningless without a corresponding opinion. Pretty hard to refute the obvious, eh? I would hate to be in your shoes having to defend these scoundrels.
"They knew they could never implement the plans drawn up at PNAC without such an event. Note that once these plans were implemented within months Bush's approval nosedived, never to revive.
Pretty nutty for someone claiming to be a "voice of reason." Bush's approval ratings were in the 90th percentile after Saddam was taken down and Afghanistan liberated. It wasn't until Iraqis started killing each other that things headed south.
Add to that the false blame he's taken for Hurricane Katrina and an up-and-down economy, and you begin to understand why he's taking so much blame. Intersting to note: The Dem-controlled Congress continually lags lower than the President in approval ratings. So much for those jackasses.
Sorry Libs. I didn't mean to give you a positive. I meant to click the reply button instead.... oh well
Your comment:
"Intersting to note: The Dem-controlled Congress continually lags lower than the President in approval ratings. So much for those jackasses."
The reason the numbers are low is because they were elected to end the war and the Bush Presidency. They didn't come through so people aren't happy with them. This does not bode well for the Republicans in November.
Or Democratic incumbents.
We should regularly throw incumbents out the door until they understand all the corporate money in the world won't get them reelected. We should also deny health benefits to all elected officials until they give us what they have available to them.
Osama taken down? HA! What absurdity. He's in the strongest position he has ever been in thanks to the monumental foreign policy blunders of you Republicans over the past 7 years.
false blame for Katrina?? Clinton and Bush Sr both gave up biz trips for hurricanes or impending natural disasters, before they happened.
Bush Jr, went golfing. You know, that game Jr gave up as a sacrifice to show support for US troops before he didn`t actually give it up.
The Congress has so low ratings because the cons are filibustering and blocking what America voted in the Dems to do. Hence, three special elections in Republican districts have all gone to the Dems.
Bush`s approval ratings were a call for unity post 9/11. They starting going downhill as soon as he took two months to do a thing and then when he let obl go free, and then when he illegally diverted funds from Afghanistan to Iraq, etc.
In other words, the high ratings were none of his own doing, but the low ratings are a true reflection of his incompetence and failures.
How many times do you have to be used b4 you get it?
Don't you just love it when the Cons here can't even rebut a word of the truth in your post, so they are left sending in their drive be neggers to give you a neg vote without comment?
You said that very well.
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Does his health status have any affect on him ordering a handful of terrorists to use our skyscrapers as landing strips or 747's? What he needs is a cruz missle shoved up his ass.
Clinton gave that a try on August 19th, 1998 but received nothing but condemnation (he was "Wagging the Dog", he blew up an aspirin factory!). He almost got OBL. Never gets any credit for the attempt.
As for your question. If he is in fact dead, yes, it does make a difference. And if that is the case who is speaking on these mysterious messages that seem to be so well timed. Because of his apparent operational ineffectiveness (living high in the mountains with no electronic communication) it should take days, even weeks, for him to get a message out of Waziristan.
What the hell are you talking about????? Clinton was offered Bin Laden on a silver platter, but wouldn't leave the f--king golf course.
Shhhh ... GW, don't try using "reason" on an unbalanced individual.
That is purely your revisionist history and of course it is totally incorrect and deceptive. Are you an IDIOT! And some other f-ckin' idiot gave you a positive as well! You revisionists will not take over this world. Orwell warned us about you long ago. You would however make a good employee at the Ministry of Truth...you are the type of American that is destroying this country...slowly but surely...
Actually, for years I've been trying to figure out who the bigger idiot is: Clinton, or the ones that supported him. You just cleared that up for me. Thanks.
Have you read "Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Compromised National Security" by Lt. Col Robert Patterson
The account in the book was disputed by Sandy Berger
We all know what a credible source Berger is, right?
Yes, I have read that book. It is purely a biased account of the Clinton presidency. Anyone with the nickname "Buzz" has to be taken somewhat lightly. I have plenty of issues with the way Clinton conducted himself. Ignoring OBL is not one of them.
The fact that Clinton actually took action against OBL seems to completely escape the both of you. As does the fact that Bush/Cheney seem not the least bit concerned by his continued existence. You are living in a world of smoke and mirrors.
I'm almost as tired of this goat f*cking rag head as I am of his pals Bush and Cheney.
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Dear 'capecoralM' ???? What is your POST???? In my screen, I got 'ZIP" NADA, ziro.
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I take it you think Osama is a big hero. You believe in what he stands for.
Lets see. He is a true believer so you better become a good Muslim or die. That is the choice he is giving you. People of the Book are many times allowed to live under Islam provided they pay jizya.
Quran 9:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth (even if they are) of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.
The Jizya had to be paid individually at a humiliating public ceremony to remind the Dhimmis (protected people), that they are inferior to the believers, that is, the Muslims.
Foul. John McCain is hardly ancient. Can't ya'll do better than attack his age?