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I'm waiting for someone to find a way to blame Bush and the jews...where is nikki when you need her?

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Now, now, we all know this wouldn't be happening if the U.S. wasn't in Lebanon! Oh, wait, we AREN'T in Lebanon. My bad. Please forgive me. It's all date palms and fig pies in the Middle East.

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Now I'm really confused . If the Sunni's and Shiite's can get along in Lebanon , why can't they get along in Iraq ?

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The Sunni Moslems and the Shiite Moslems are killing themselves in Lebanon. And just this month, Conde Nast Traveler did a piece on how Beirut has rebuilt itself after the 15 year civil war that previously destroyed it. I don't know if the Lebanese "government" has the resources to prevent these two sects from destroying Beirut again.

Here's an idea!

America, under the leadership of George Bush and Dick Cheney, has solved the Sunni/Shiite problem in Iraq, so let's just help out the Lebanese and solve it there, too!

We fixed it in Iraq, we can fix it in Labanon.

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Tell me about peaceful Sadr City, now please...

I know... sarcasm.

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"Tell me about peaceful Sadr City, now please..."

Point is, it isn't happening because coalition forces liberated Iraq.

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"Now I'm really confused . If the Sunni's and Shiite's can get along in Lebanon , why can't they get along in Iraq ?"

Did you read the story? ...

"...the second day of clashes between Sunni Muslims loyal to the government and Shiite supporters of Hezbollah."

In other words, they aren't getting along.

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Thank You libs . I had just woke up and was not entirely aware . Well I never am [ totally aware ] .

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So true DJR.

It seems like hatred for the Jews is inversely related to the economy.

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How about letting mideastern jews point the finger at the criminals. They are better informed about zionist crimes against humanity than americans.

Indigenous Middle Eastern Jews condemn Israeli aggression

Indigenous Middle Eastern Jewry, from Lebanon, Morocco, and Iran, have issued recent condemnations of the Israeli assaults on Lebanon and Palestine....

http://www.ww4report.com/node/2278

Moroccan Jews ask court to try Amir Peretz for war crimes

Three Jewish Moroccans have submitted Rabat's high court with a petition against Defense Minister Amir Peretz, accusing the Moroccan-born Israeli of war crimes. ...

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/746169.html

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Enter the PLO

On July 23 rd 1968, in the middle of the "summer of love," three PFLP guerillas took control of an EL AL Boeing bound for Tel Aviv from Rome and diverted it to Algiers. The Algerians weren't expecting them, but as they as they were among Israel's strongest denouncers, the hijackers, choice of destination wasn't too surprising. Algiers has since become the place to take the hijacked aircraft, and the Algerian government has developed a great deal of expertise in dealing with them. The PFLP now changed tack a little, and started shooting up airliners as they started there take-off run. In Athens and again in Zurich they were only marginally successful, killing one Israeli in each attack. But five Palistinians were captured and held in European jails, and that was to spur their PFLP colleagues to great lengths to get them released.

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Then, one can remember that the US and Israel are "supporting" the minority "christian fascist government" in Lebanon, including terrorists.

Who's Behind the Fighting in North Lebanon?

... Given Bush administration debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan and its encouragement for Israel to continue its destruction of Lebanon this past summer, the situation in Lebanon mirrors, in some respects, the early 1980's when groups sprung up to resist the US green lighted Israeli invasion and occupation. But rather than being Shia and pro-Hezbollah, today's groups are largely Sunni and anti-Hezbollah. Hence they qualify for US aid, funneled by Sunni financial backers in league with the Bush administration which is committed to funding Islamist Sunni groups to weaken Hezbollah.

This project has become the White House obsession following Israel's July 2006 defeat.

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... To understand what is going on with Fatah al-Islam at Nahr el-Bared one would want a brief introduction to Lebanon's amazing, but shadowy 'Welch Club'.

The Club is named for its godfather, David Welch, assistant to Secretary of State Rice who is the point man for the Bush administration and is guided by Eliot Abrams...

Key Lebanese members of the Welch Club (aka: the 'Club') include:

The Lebanese civil war veteran, warlord, feudalist and mercurial Walid Jumblatt of the Druze party( the Progressive Socialist Party or PSP)

Another civil war veteran, warlord, terrorist (Served 11 years in prison for massacres committed against fellow Christians among others) Samir Geagea. Leader of the extremist Phalange party and its Lebanese Forces (LF) the group that conducted the Israel organized massacre at Sabra-Shatilla (although led by Elie Hobeika, once Geagea's mentor, Geagea did not take part in the Sept. 1982 slaughter of 1,700 Palestinian and Lebanese).

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The billionaire, Saudi Sheikh and Club president Saad Hariri leader of the Sunni Future Movement (FM).

Over a year ago Hariri's Future Movement started setting up Sunni Islamist terrorist cells (the PSP and LF already had their own militia since the civil war and despite the Taif Accords requiring militia to disarm they are now rearmed and itching for action and trying hard to provoke Hezbollah).

The FM created Sunni Islamist 'terrorist' cells were to serve as a cover for (anti-Hezbollah) Welch Club projects. The plan was that actions of these cells, of which Fatah el-Islam is one, could be blamed on al Qaeda or Syria or anyone but the Club....

The first Welch Club funded militia, set up by FM, is known locally as Jund-al-Sham ...

The second was Fateh-al-Islam ...

According to members of both Fatah el-Islam and Jund-al-Sham their groups acted on the directive of the Club president, Saad Hariri.

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... Today, tensions are high between the Lebanese army and the Welch Club. Some mention the phrase 'army coup'.

The Club is trying to run Parliament and is prepared to go all the way not to 'lose' Lebanon. It has a dutiful PM in Fouad Siniora.

The club tried to seize control of the presidency and when it failed it marginalized it. Last year it tried to control of the Parliamentary Constitutional Committee, which audits the government's policies, laws and watch dogs their actions. When the Club failed to control it they simply abolished the Constitutional Committee. This key committee no longer exists in Lebanon's government.

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.. The Welch Club now considers the Lebanese Army a serious problem. The Bush administration is trying to undermine and marginalize it to eliminate one of the last two obstacles to implementing Israel's agenda in Lebanon.

If the army is weakened, it can not protect _over 70% of the Christians in Lebanon who support General Aoun's Free Patriotic Movement. The F.P.M. is mainly constituted of well educated, middle class and unarmed Lebanese civilians. The only protection they have is the Lebanese Army which aids in maintaining their presence in the political scene. The other type of Christians in Lebanon is the minority, about 15% of Christians associated with Geagea's Lebanese Forces who are purely militia. If the Club can weaken the Army even more than it is, then this Phalange minority will be the only relatively strong force on the Christian scene and become the "army" of the Club.

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Another reason the Club wants to weaken the Lebanese Army is that the Army is nationalistic and is a safety valve for Lebanon to ensure the Palestinian right of return to Palestine, Lebanese nationhood and the resistance culture led by Hezbollah, with which is has excellent relations.

For their part, the Welch Club wants to keep some Palestinians in Lebanon for cheap labor, ship others to countries willing to take them (and be paid handsomely to do so by American taxpayers) and allow at most a few thousand to return to Palestine to settle the 'right of return' issue while at the same time signing a May 17th 1983 type treaty with Israel with enriches the Club members and gives Israel Lebanon's water and much of Lebanon's sovereignty....

http://www.counterpunch.org/lamb05242007.html

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You know Hyper the way you post is rude. Do you see anyone else post an entire story in six consecutive comments? That's a good enough reason to give you negs.

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Hyper,

How you gonna spam the man's thread?

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Mar 9, 2002: Avia Malka, 9 months, and Israel Yihye, 27, were killed and about 50 people were injured when two Fatah terrorists opened fire and threw grenades at cars and pedestrians in the coastal city of Netanya on Saturday evening, close to the city's boardwalk and hotels.

�March 21, 2002: An Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade suicide bomber exploded himself in a crowd of shoppers in Jerusalem, killing 3 and injuring 86.

� March 29, 2002: Two killed and 28 injured when a female Fatah suicide bomber blew herself up in a Jerusalem supermarket.

� March 30, 2002: One killed and 30 injured in an Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade suicide bombing in Tel Aviv.

� April 12, 2002: Six killed and 104 wounded when a female Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade suicide bomber blew herself up at a bus stop on Jaffa road at the entrance to Jerusalem's Mahane Yehuda open-air market.

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