Then answer my question, if those accusations alleged in the article are so true (treasonous to say the least), why hasn't Fallon been courtmartialed or prosecuted?

Please define 'occasional'.

:-)

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=39235

Our continued presence in the ME sends the message to iran that the terrorists like OBL were right, America wants to invade and colonize exactly the way OBL said we would.

Surely you don't expect those returning Iraqi soldiers to be trained already??

Like bush,what has Petraeus done that would qualify him to take over central command?

That link is a reprint opinion piece from Nat. Rev. with all sorts of innuendo that if true would convict Fallon of high treason. I wonder why the government hasn't prosecuted the bastard. Probably because it's not true. But don't let the truth get in the way of your spin.

Oh, in the real world there are more choices than hiding under a rock and driving our country right off a cliff.

Just thought you should know.

Bush, Yale, Harvard.

go figure.

Petr. promised a whole bunch of achievements within six months at the time, none of which have come true years later.

We're still waiting for those brigades Petr. Last I heard about 1,200 more Iraqis deserted at the first sign of a fight. Nice training there big guy.

Oh, and how about all those weapons you lost? How many have been used to kill Americans and innocents so far?

Bush is as incompetent as they get. Failure at everything he's done, only became president because of Daddy's name, favors, connections, and Dubya is easily manipulated by his handlers like Cheney.

Bush wants diverse opinions like he wants to be held responsible for his actions. Not at all.

> That's a libelous lie.

That's not a very nice thing to say.

There is no proof of this.

Really? And what wacko website did you glean this nugget of information from?

http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,150317,...

Why the Recent Setbacks in Afghanistan?

recent setbacks have occurred for two central reasonsâ;;a shifting reliance on NATO forces and increased freedom of movement for insurgents in the Pakistani tribal areas.

The limits of NATO's ability to operate in a high-stress combat environment have been made clear through the experience in Afghanistan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/world/asia/02...

Afghan Police Suffer Setbacks as Taliban Adapt

The setback is part of a bloody stalemate that has occurred between NATO troops and Taliban fighters across southern Afghanistan this summer.

http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/ST...

Taliban fighters' brazen takeover of a town in southern Afghanistan this month marked a major setback for NATO and its Afghan allies

U.S.-IRAQ: Fallon Derided Petraeus, Opposed the Surge

The question is: Will rank insubordination on a scale arguably not seen in a military commander since MacArthur faded away nearly six decades ago be rewarded by still higher office?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/13/opini...

Admiral Fallon For VP?

he abrupt resignation Tuesday of the combatant commander of U.S. Central Command, Admiral William J. "Fox" Fallon, is not the end of a career but a move calculated to catapult the former naval officer into the vice-presidential sweepstakes. After all, a military man who has proven himself utterly unserious about the Iranian threat would be perfect running mate for either Senators Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.

Would any president want on his (or her) team an individual who had engaged in serial acts of insubordination and sabotage of a previous commander-in-chief? Consider just a few of the more public examples of such behavior:

The admiral's assignment to Centcom commander came as a shock to those who had observed what some called his "toxic leadership" in the Pacific Command.

You could go online and find the explanations of all the ribbons if you were interested.

Thanks for the explanation. I'm not familiar with commendations, merit awards etc transposing themselves into ribbons on an officer's uniform. However, I prefer to see the genuine article viz, Gen Sir Mike Jackson's few medal ribbons.

I'm sure his experience in Iraq will be touted as a first hand account of Iranian duplicity.

So many people have such a blind uncompromising support for Israel. Where did that come from?

Do these supporters know about the U.S.S. Liberty and the murder of 34 crewmen by Israelis? and our govt.'s refusal to do anything about it? Do they know about the spies for Israel that we have imprisoned, or the recent arrest of an Israeli spy (L.A.Times story) who stole nuclear secrets from us?

Tell me GOPPY, where did this blind support for Israel come from? What did they do to EARN it?

"..everything seems to be about Jews and Palestine to some"

To be fare Dead exy, I dont think most poeple on Popieller. hyperbola is the only one I know of ... well except for the occassional kookie here and there.

whose land was it?

in the 1880's Ottoman census, there were already 24,000 plus Jews living there

this is before Zionism and the mass emigration of later years

Did those Jews steal the land?

If so, when did they steal it?

---

and what is this thread about? Jews?

everything seems to be about Jews and Palestine to some

Such is the limitations of your conservative programming, and your ability to look beyond it.

Yep, New you were a lunatic.

Bush's Iraq War Double-Speak

With the Iraq War now in its sixth bloody year, there are predictable patterns to the new ad campaigns for optimism, with fresh corners turned and more reasons to mock war critics. In this guest essay, Ivan Eland looks at George W. Bush's happy Iraq War double-speak.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/index.html

Politics â;; Bush invaded Iraq with the intent of turning Iraq into an American colony. The so-called government of Maliki is not a government. Maliki is the well paid front man for U.S. colonial rule. The most likely explanation for the U.S. invasion of Iraq is the neoconservative Bush regime's commitment to the defense of Israeli territorial expansion.

http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/04/23/...

Try looking at the situation in the ME from a position of objectivity, and ask yourself how you would react if you were the one who's land was stolen, and lives disrupted by non-indigenous Europeans, Americans, and others, claiming YOUR land is THEIR promised land. As an "engineer", you SHOULD be able to look beyond simple conservative programming.

You Can't Square an Iraqi Circle

Earnest and well-intentioned ain't going to cut it in Iraq. Someone needs to get that message to the new U.S. ground commander, Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno. You see, Odierno wants to fight Iraq with the Iraqis he wished existed rather than the sectarian groups who acutally exist. If he persists believing in an Iraq that does not really exist he will fail. Just because you want to believe a circle is square does not mean you can square a circle.

While acknowledging in an interview yesterday at Camp Victory that the nature of the war and the tactics required to prevail had changed, his other comments to reporters reflect an alarming naiveté about the sectarian rifts in Iraq....

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2007/01/08...

How do you know Stoutkraut is OKW?

The Wehrmacht was the most successful fighting force in 1940, 2 weeks from the frontier to the Channel coast defeating the French and the British armies. Only when they were instructed to fight on 2 fronts did they eventually fail.

Of course you won't remember that the concerns of those dismissed officers, men of actual integrity, turned out to be right.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/20/world/middlee...

As for Odierno, so long as he was out of the spotlight, he was somewhat honest in describing the iraqi debacle and his own failures. Now he will probably just parrot bushie/pentagon propaganda.

General Discusses Goals of His Return to Iraq

... Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, who returns to Iraq next month to take charge of the day-to-day fight as commander of the Multinational Corps-Iraq, says he departs for Baghdad with a clearer, perhaps even diminished, set of expectations of what the military can be expected to accomplish ...

... "The longer we stay in Iraq, the less of a military fight it becomes," the general said. "We have to understand that."...

How U.S. Strategy Is Hastening Iraq's Demise

Do No Evil â;; The "surge" strategy to reduce violence is not linked to any sustainable plan for a viable Iraqi state - it has made such an outcome less likely. Recent short-term gains have come at the expense of a stable, unitary Iraq. The strategy adopted for near-term advantage by a frustrated administration only increases the long-term debacle.

http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/04/11/...

General Sir Mike Jackson until recently the senior officer in the British Army has at most half a dozen

After WW2, Korea then Vietnam what else? No doubt someone will tell me.

My militia is more untouchable than yours

Do No Evil â;; In real life, Iraq, with no less than 28 militias is burning - again, all over, even in "invisible" (for Western media) places. Couple that with relentless Bush administration narratives of "blame, blame Iran" and "surge" propaganda and American public opinion is strangled by a formidable disinformation octopus.

http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/04/21/...

Politics â;; Most news organizations didn't know or care their analysts were directed by the administration while claiming neutrality; taking expensive trips paid by the administration; meeting secretly with senior administration officials and plotting military or political strategy; or competing for military contracts. Our media is now Pravda in America.

http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/04/21/...

Pentagon Pimps & Propaganda Operation

Do No Evil â;; The NYT report exposes the Pentagon's propaganda machine, its control over access and information, and its selling of the "war on terror" --beginning with the buildup to the Iraq war. As someone posting here put it, Goebbels would be proud.

http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/04/21/...

"This guy is a scum and a Bush mouth piece in uniform." and

"Generals like Betrayus have no balls. They don't go and die. They send others to die for them."

Do not fit the mold of discussion in my opinion.

A discussion by concerned citizens is entirely appropriate, given the REQUIREMENT for NON-MILITARY (i.e. Senate) approval of the appointment.

no room

I am humbled.

I think it shows the measure of this man in that he is willing to try.

unless you think the General hasn't read or heard about all the dismissals listed above

Considering the impossible problem that Bush has concocted for Petrus to solve, he is doing quite well.

However, why Petreus would want to do try to solve the impossible problems that Bush has concocted, might require several psychologists' life-times to explore

However, as he made clear during his recent testimony before congress, his mission has been, and will be to carry out the directives of his superiors (i.e. Bush/Cheney).

Having Petreus in command only means that we will have a very competent person carrying out idiotic directives from Cheney.

Unfortunately, the part about him having to carry out Bush's directives is true (as per his own testimony before Congress).

RighteousJews.org was inspired by the website of the most famous Holocaust museum at Yad Vashem, located on Mt. Herzl on the lands of the Palestinian village of Ein Karem 1,400 meters south of the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin. Yad Vashem lists the names of over 19,000 non-Jews who risked their "lives, freedom, and safety in order to rescue one or several Jews from the threat of death or deportation to death camps without exacting in advance monetary compensation." For many years this list was referred to as the list of "Righteous Gentiles." ...

http://www.righteousjews.org/

Welcome to Righteous Jews.org

RighteousJews.org was begun in 2003 as a way to commemorate the memory of those Palestinians who have been, and continue to be depopulated, dispossessed, humiliated, tortured, and murdered in the name of political Zionism and its quest to create a Jewish state in the lands between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River. From its founding in 1897 the Zionist endeavors to "pump in" Jews and "pump out" Palestinians from this land have been the root cause of bloodshed and conflict.

U.S. Soldiers Say Administration Exaggerated Role Of Iraqi Troops In Basra Offensive

... According to a new Time magazine article, some U.S. troops are bristling at all the undue credit being lavished upon the Iraqi forces:

And at least one American soldier said he was angry that the role of Iraqi troops was exaggerated after the battle. "A gunfight broke out and we were fighting [the Mahdi Army] for about four hours," the soldier told TIME. "The army article made it sound like we were just there supporting the Iraqi Army, but we did all the work. We just had four humvees out there with some Iraqi [troops]."

Another soldier at Forward Operating Base Kalsu in north Babil said he has little confidence in the battle abilities of the Iraqi forces. ...

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/22/troops-basra/

The American Council for Judaism

Zionism at 100: Remembering Its Often Prophetic Jewish Critics

.. With regard to the future of Palestine, the petitioners state: "It is our fervent hope that what was once a 'promised land' for Jews may become 'a land of promise' for all races and creeds . . . We ask that Palestine be constituted as a free and independent state to be governed under a democratic form of government recognizing no distinctions of creed or race or ethnic descent, and with adequate power to protect the country against oppression of any kind. We do not wish to see Palestine, either now or at any time in the future, organized as a Jewish state." ...

http://www.acjna.org/acjna/articles_detail.aspx...

Henry Kissinger: War Criminal or Old-Fashioned Murderer?

Incredibly, Henry Kissingerâ;;the man who rivals Pol Pot for the dubious honor of being the person responsible for the death of the largest number of innocent people in South East Asia (and far surpasses Pol Pot in criminality when one factors in Kissinger's various levels of responsibility for wholesale slaughter and repression in other parts of the world)â;;still wields significant power in the United States; but his role as eager facilitator of mass murder, totalitarian repression and other atrocities is never discussed in polite society....

http://www.eclipse.net/~tgardnet/kiss/kisskill....

Sorry engineer, but your statement seems to be more in keeping with excusing crimes, corruption and incompetence if the perpetrator is jewish. That has led to far too much treason by israel-firsters in america.

Frankly, americans (and especially american jews) need to tell second generation zioncons from europe that they still have a LOT to learn about american democracy and should butt out of our foreign and military policy.

It would unite Iraq, Iran and Afgan geographically, and looking at a map it makes sense, but in reality to invade Iran in any way is for USA to commit suicide

Politics â;; Nato has evidently got itself into a colossal muddle in Afghanistan. Everything that could possibly go wrong has gone wrong. It is far from clear why the alliance is fighting there at all, and what it is seeking to achieve. Talk of "victory" is a dangerous illusion.

http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/04/12/...

Iraq Testimony from a Different General

Politics â;; The surge is prolonging instability, not creating the conditions for unity as the president claims, his testimony began. The decline in violence reflects a dispersion of power to dozens of local strong men who distrust the government and fight among themselves. The basic military situation is far worse.

http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/04/12/...

Petraeus Hid Maliki Resistance to US Troops in Basra

Politics â;; Petraeus lied to Congress about recent fighting in Basra. al Maliki attacked Basra to keep US and British troops from resuming large scale war in southern Iraq. al Maliki also wanted to emphasize that the Iraqi government wants agreement between the US and Iran and is opposed to the US using Iraq to attack Iran.

http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/04/18/...

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/webb-fallon/

Will we bother to win there again or just invade Iran?