News – North Korea said on Friday it would boost its war deterrent, a day after the United States said it was sending its nuclear envoy back to Asia to discuss an atomic disarmament deal on which Pyongyang has missed a deadline.
N. Korea is a nation that has never been honest with the rest of the world, is paranoid beyond sanity, would like nothing better than to control every nation and person on the planet -and- eventually will fall to an inner rebellion or must be destroyed by other nations before there will ever be the chance of peace in that area of the world. I served in S. Korea when the two Americans were killed trimming a tree on the DMZ - we almost went to war then (we spent 17 days on war footing alert). Less than 6 months after that they shot down one of our helicopters that was flying in the DMZ. Every year US & S. Korean & other UN soldiers are killed along the DMZ by N.Korean ambushes. The 1950's Korean war is still technically on since no peace treaty was signed - only a cease fire that NK constantly violates. They threaten nuclear war, yet they know that if they used any nukes they would be bombed with our nukes and cease to exist as a government. Their nuclear threats are moot.
"...is a nation that has never been honest with the rest of the world, is paranoid beyond sanity, would like nothing better than to control every nation and person on the planet..."
hmmmmmmm.
Right, Kim Jong Il is just like George Bush. Save it for the Hillary condolence rally.
Did I say anything? You made your own connections, not me.
What a vicious insult to Kim Jong II. George Bush is 10 times as big a scum bag!
Compared to Bush, Kim is Mother Theresa!
You know, Teech, that is below you.
George Bush is not murdering our people because they speak out. Bush is not starving the poor to build nuclear weapons. Bush is not begging other countries to bail us out. Bush is not painting giant pictures of himself on every wall in town. Bush is not suspending elections. Bush is not taking over every aspect of our economy. Bush is not selecting pretty 13 year old girls from poor families to rape.
Your very hateful remark is gross to anyone who knows anything about Kim.
You owe an apology to Mother Teresa for the comparison.
Point well taken, criticism accepted. My apologies to Mother Teresa. And no argument from me as to how evil Kim is. But Bush's blatant lies and falsified intelligence to get us into war in Iraq is equal to murdering dissidents in Korea. What about those who were innocent, but still held at Guantanamo? A 10 trillion debt is slow starvation for the future of so many lower class Americans who could have benefited from universal health care. Chckensh!t George couldn't pay for his own war, tax cuts to the top 1% were too important. China is not bailing us out by buying our debt? The Bushtapo and the Corporados have not turned us into a facist nation and don't control our economy? I think they do. The rape of our Constitution is as disgusting as Kim's rape of young girls.
No apologies to that sick excuse of a human being, and a disgrace to the office of President - George W. Bush. I don't like him. History will forgive Kim before it vindicates Bush, the sneaky despot.
You are an American. Your opinion is your right.
Personally, I think there's a lot of blame to affect a lot of people and I don't believe Clinton's gutting of our intelligence agencies helped matters.
I always hesitate to lay all of my blame on only one guy or for that matter one administration or party.
A fair question. One I ask myself frequently. Well, tang, what's wrong with me is that I consider every person killed in Iraq who is a non-terrorist, non-combatant, a murder victim. And the number, although disputed, is in the thousands, maybe even hundred thousands. I can't accept the "collateral damage" of a war created and propagated on nothing but lies. Don't get me wrong. I'm a vet. I support our troops, always have, always will. Their primary goal is to come home alive and intact. Their Commander In Chief is a common war criminal, and I'm convinced, will eventually be tried as one. So, I guess that's what's wrong with me. (At least one of the many things) Perhaps I'm unique.
> For the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, as stated in its judgment, a war of aggression "is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-17856340.html
Let's just keep things in perspective.
North Korea is a storm in a teacup when compared
to the past 7 years and their toll on the world.
Teech
You blame their murder on Americans, not the terrorists, or the insurgent remnants of saddams baath party. Why is that?
If someone goes into your house and ransacks it and destroys everything, when you come home and find the mess and cut yourself on broken glass would you not blame the person who ransacked your house. The US took a stable country in an unstable region and totally destroyed the balance of power as a reason to stay in the region for long term plans. It was a chicken ****** thing to do and one that only a coward would do.
Your analogy does not make sense here. A better one would be, If your dad had murdered half of your family, raped the other half, and upon being taken out by the police two of your sisters were killed, would you blame the cops, or your murdering father?
Tang your proposed analogy doesn't even come close to the point, and yes I would blame the cops if they were the ones who killed them. You see for every murder there is one killer and in a case where more than one person is killed there can be more then one killer. Stop hiding behind blind patriotism for a while, it clears the mind.
If by stable you mean that Saddam killed massive numbers of people until no effective resistance survived...
And now Turkey wants to go to war with those very people, because they are committing terrorists acts against them. Stop trying to spin BS. Saddam was fighting to keep his own country from ripping it's self apart. The US gave him the very weapons he used against those people so you don't have much support there.
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"(We) will further strengthen our war deterrent capabilities in response to U.S. attempts to initiate nuclear war," the prickly state's communist party newspaper Rodong Sinmun said in a commentary."
These guys are off-the-charts crazy.
Attempts to "initiate nuclear war"? I guess they need to do everything possible to keep their population from looking at them. Very self-destructive regime.
The US is the only country to use nuclear weapons. Israel's the only country to seriously consider using them very recently. Guess who's one of the US's biggest allies?
They may be nuts, but they're not far from the mark.
I have to disagree.
The U.S. has no plans to initiate a nuclear war against North Korea. Their leader has so many problems that he can't handle that his only hope for continued power is to keep his country on a continual "edge of war" against an imaginary threat.
He than can continue to blame the U.S. for all of their woes even as the bags of rice being distributed throughout his country have U.S. flags printed on them with the phrase "Gift from the people of the United States of America."
Sadly, nobody there reads English...
......"Their leader has so many problems that he can't handle that his only hope for continued power is to keep his country on a continual "edge of war" against an imaginary threat...."
Are you talking about George Bush, or North Korea?
They are certainly loose cannons, annoying and paranoid...and starving, but how many soveriegn nations have THEY invaded lately?
Aside from South Korea?
The only other country they border is China.
The only reason they haven't tried to take over the world is because they lack the money. These are not rational people.
Being that my mother in law was born in Seoul, and lived most of her life in Korea, I have some knowledge about this. Spinward, you are right. N korea is one of the most effed up places on earth. The people lack food and electricity. Hundreds of thousands starve to death every year. Yet their leaders live in luxury. Kim jong metay ill is a power hungry madman who is hell bent on obtaining nuclear power.
actually, N. Korea borders Russia as well, in the extreme northeast. they're negotiating a railroad between the two countries so N. korea can refine some of russia's oil.
and even if they had a nuke, the prospect of n. korea taking over the world is laughable, or more to the point, suicidal.
Oh, yes... Russia... right there on the corner.
Anyway, that's what I'm saying.
It's not a lack of desire, it's a lack of ability.
I'm telling you, these guys are real screw-balls.
> Aside from South Korea.
To consider the Korean War, a civil conflict
that became the battleground for the Cold War,
and the first US effort at imperial expansion
in the post-WW2 period, as North Korea
invading a sovereign nation is an historical
absurdity.
They can't take over the world because we are.
U.S. efforts at imperialism? Really? You know, it was the North that invaded the South and it was through the U.S. that force was authorized to repel them.
What is it with you freaks blaming the U.S. for everything in the world?
Tiresome and old.
And the South was what?
A damsel in distress?
Our intervention was imperial
opportunism.
For some years now there have
been efforts at reunification
between both North and South
Korea.
A reunification is not in our
interests.
It would mean having to leave.
Neither tiresome nor old, we
haven't even yet scratched the
surface of what we have done
in this world in less than a
lifetime. Events of which most
Americans live in ignorance or
denial. Most of the world knows
it better than we do. As far as
their concerned, we're the freaks.
So, the U.N. authorizes the evil imperialists of the United States to use force?
Wow. I never heard that history before.
Let's see... North invades (they're the good guys) because they love and miss their Southern brothers and want to give them a hug...
The South mistakes this love for hostility and calls on the U.N. to intervene...
The U.N. then intervenes and inadvertently lets the evil Americans seperate the loving North from the South.
Thanks. Now I get it.
So, the U.N. authorizes the evil imperialists of the United States to use force?
.
The Soviets were boycotting the Security Council.
The resolution would not have passed otherwise.
The tension on the peninsula was due to the joint US and Soviet administration set up in 1945.
Ironically, it was the South that opposed most measures the US supported for increased control.
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Wow. I never heard that history before.
.
It's called critical thinking rather than learning by rote.
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Let's see... North invades (they're the good guys) because they love and miss their Southern brothers and want to give them a hug...
.
The division has literally separated families, including brothers.
=
The U.N. then intervenes and inadvertently lets the evil Americans seperate the loving North from the South.
.
We advanced beyond the 38th parallel.
China, rightly so, regarded this as a threat.
It ended, ironically, at the 38th parallel.
Nothing was achieved. Many died.
They are so far off the mark that they don't even take THEMSELVES seriously.
They know there is no threat. They just need to keep their own starving population supporting their unnecessary military expenditures.
It's ridiculous and they know it.
Hey, the Americans don't keep up their end of the bargain so why should the North Koreans? They have the same rights to make any weapons they chose as the US does so why does the US think they can dictate to them?
Sorry I accidentally gave a neg to you when I meant to hit the reply button. I'm still a little new.
Regardless, I want to disagree on the basis that they are building nuclear weapons with money we make available to them for humanitarian aid.
They come to us crying that they need electricity while spending every cent they have on their military. We grant them their requests for aid on the premise that they will become a more productive country and they agree... then change their minds after the aid arrives and create a new reason to build weapons.
Seems the biggest mistake we made was not finishing the job the last time we were there. We marched all over their little country and then turned it back over to the freaks to destroy when we left. We should have given it to South Korea and left the peninsula under one government (my opinion).
Sorry White Knight but look up your history, the UN forces didn't walk all over anybody. The north got sizable help from China and all but kicked the UN forces butts, if not for Air power and superior artillery all of Korea would be united now.
I would like to see all nukes destroyed but that will never happen so the only defence these countries have against American Aggression is nuclear capability, would you deny any country the right to self defence?
YUP! When the Chinese swarmed over the Yalu River, we got a taste of what a land war with China would be like. Better we all keep shopping at Walmart and maybe keep 'em off our backs for awhile.
That's why MacArthur actually thought about atom bombing the parallel so the radiation would keep the Chinese and the N.K's on their own side. Strange but true.
I heard that before, that's why they pulled his butt back to the states before he started WW3. He was a war general, not a diplomats general.
Just like now we have a war chickenhawk not a diplomacy president. There will be no solution to this problem until the chimp leaves office. W almost got back to what Bill had accomplished about 10 years ago but that little anal wart just had to try to get a last little prick in. Unfortunately W has already brought major instability in the middle east. W also wanted tactical nukes. We were too late on sacking this one.
Bill did what with North Korea?
He made a deal, gave up the cash and prizes, they told us to get lost and didn't fill their end.
That helps who?
They did their end. Dumbass got elected and decided to start a fight so he halted the shipments of fuel. They said fine we restart the reactor. The thing to understand is dumbass is almost always the one starting crap and being a world AHole. They only told us to get lost after dumbass decided to screw them over for sh!ts and giggles.
You are correct.
> Adopting a harder line toward North Korea than that of his predecessor, President George W. Bush said March 7 (2001) that his administration would not immediately resume missile negotiations with Pyongyang left unfinished by the Clinton administration.
http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2001_04/korea.asp
Because children shouldn't play with matches.
Somebody needs to squash this little cockroach.
We could bomb them back to the stoneage, but for them that was... last week.
'Bomb them back to the stoneage'
It takes a stoneage mentality to make such a comment.
It was a joke.
Take a breath, ok? I swear you guys have no sense of humor.
Funny, no. Predictably boring, yes.
> Somebody needs to squash this little cockroach.
While this sounds like something off Cartoon Network.