Surprise: The rich get richer and the poor get more numerous »
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The gap between the state's rich and its poor is getting bigger. The bulk of job growth in California over the last generation took place at the top or bottom of the pay scale, a trend that has accelerated since the beginning of this decade. Jobs in the middle are scarcely growing at all.
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Planeteer1 year ago
Free trade will do it to you! Middle class will vanish as jobs get exported abroad. These countries do not have regulations regarding labour or envrionment. Even if they do, they are less likely to observe them.
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BusinessDude1 year ago
Do people think they are entitled to high-paying jobs? Do people think companies are required to pay people more money?
Well boy, do I have an eye-opener for everyone!
You aren't entitled to anything. Nothing. Zip, zap, nada.
In this country you get what you earn. If you don't work hard in school, or if you don't work hard in general don't expect to get past flipping burgers at McDonald's.
If you spent your high school years playing video games, not studying, and goofing off, it's your own fault you aren't making more.
If you didn't go to college, it's your own fault you aren't making more. If you majored in writing thinking you would "write a book", and you never got a book published, it's your own fault for choosing such a risky career.
Stop complaining, and make yourself a better life.
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somecommonsense1 year ago
well there is a great business lesson for ya! Based on your statements, it would appear that you feel Americans don't work as hard as they did when the gap between the rich and poor was smaller. I think that it's hard to say for sure but I think perhaps the exact opposite is true, perhaps, and this is just a crazy idea here, but perhaps what has happened is that increasingly larger multinational corporations have squeezed every dollar of profit out of their companies in an effort to please shareholders, but in order to do so have lowered wages, lowered or eliminated health care options, and have increased hours, and workload. Also your analogy of- you get what you earn- is far too simplistic and is really just a meaningless platitude,
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somecommonsense1 year ago
many get what they haven't earned, you know people like Jeff Skilling and Bernie Ebbers, who stole millions from their companies, pensioners and shareholders...while some are punished, many continue to raid the checkbook of corporate America forcing companies to futher tighten the belt at the expense of workers.We all know the math how the average ceo makes exponentially more money than the average employee and that difference increases exponentially every decade or so. I work my ass of, I own 3 companies and im only 33 but many work very hard harder than me and still cant get ahead, sure noone is "entitled" to anything, but I think the deck, perhaps, is stacked or shuffled a bit differently than it was in the past in America...an I think the real reason for the widening gap is the OBVIOUS increase in corporate greed and the strategies companies use to enrich shareholders at the expense of workers.
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BusinessDude1 year ago
You even admit, "sure noone is 'entitled' to anything". In that case, stop whining about corporate greed. They can do what they want, and who said they should please employees before they please shareholders? What if they can't please both? And might I add that the majority of shareholders are NOT rich. This "enriching the shareholders" idea only applies to the major shareholders, the rest will only get modest profits, which might otherwise be basically nothing.
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ZippySpincycle1 year ago
I certainly don't think that corporate America was "entitled" to largely rewrite the tax code to its benefit, but surprise, surprise, that's exactly what has happened over the last 30 years. The growing gap between rich and poor is not something that just happened as a result of natural economic forces; it was the result of the game being deliberately rigged. See the book _ Perfectly Legal: The Covert Campaign to Rig Our Tax System to Benefit the Super Rich--And Cheat Everybody Else_, by David Cay Johnston (2003). http://www.powells.com/biblio/1591840198
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Teech1 year ago
Soon, very soon, that huge middle class will realize that despite their credit cards, despite the huge infusion of money from central banks, despite the fact that they voted Republican because they THOUGHT they were rich, soon, very soon they will simply stop spending. They'll simply STOP!
The resulting sh!t storm might just make the great depression look like dinner at The Ritz. Stock up on seeds, canned food, and......ammo!
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AmericanIdiot1 year ago
Our entire economy is based on consumer spending, and all US government policies are funded by taxes.
When consumers stop consuming, our economy will cease to exist. Some corporations may survive, and some products may be made, but it is impossible to imagine what kind of economy will have to be born, in the face of almost "aboriginal" disinterest in the money economy.
Consumers will stop consuming because, a)they will have no money, or not enough; and b)because due to inflation most currency will be worthless; and c)people will find other ways of getting what they want, in a cashless society.
Taxpayers will stop paying taxes because, a)they won't be able to afford it, and so the criminal class will grow exponentially, as the "informal economy" becomes the norm; and b)paper money being worthless, and banks having collapsed, it will be difficult to pay taxes; and c)people will despise any government that dares demand anything of the people they have destroyed.
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AmericanIdiot1 year ago
And so, Anarchy will be born in a bloodless Revolution, thanks to Capitalism and the Reactionary Right.
Peak Oil is hurrying the process, and the "Green" trend is partly a fad, and partly emergent survivalism in the middle class.
Global warming is helping to discredit Capitalism, which is the root of the problem, and Government, which is apparently unable to do anything about it.
The empty spectacle of politics has become so degraded, most Americans probably know more about the love lives of Jenifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie, than they do about any of the Presidential candidates.
And the Presidential race is the SuperBowl of politics. The number of people involved in local and regional politics, or even bothering to vote, is tiny and declining. American Democracy has failed.
Anarchy is historically inevitable, and all that is necessary to make it real is to cease to Reform a corrupt and evil institution, that is Government.
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AmericanIdiot1 year ago
Thank you for the perfect example of the Reactionary Right. What does abortion have to do with anything I have written above? Next you will accuse me of not supporting the troops.
Go Bush! He is hurrying the Revolution better than I could ever do alone.
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bigG1 year ago
Good point zip - too bad that most people don't realize what has been going on. That humongous tax code isn't written for you and me as I am sure the parts that affect us wouldn't cover three pages.
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saintetienne1 year ago
Forget it, BusinessDude. You're on Nutscape now. All logic just dissipates into thin air as the LooLooLibs take over.
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GODIMMAD1 year ago
One Side: As if the police or any social working job get paid worth a crap. Most of which are very educated! Do they get what they earn? At that point, the govt or upper officals are taking most of the profits and not spreading the wealth.
Other Side: The upper execs only take what they can if they can. If ppl would find another job or not take a job for no money then the jobs would pay more. We are a service nation, which is bad. We dont make much here anymore and if we do, it is too high priced for most of the service persons to afford or willing to pay.
THE STRANGE thing about this all is that the story is about CALIFORNIA!!!! Its a flush of dems and libs!!!! Why is this story even imp on the side of a dem. Cons should have brought it up. If the dems or libs think this supports their agenda....They have got to be idiots as well as the cons that like the amesty of illegals. HMMM, now that interesting for Cali. Maybe thats why the wages are down...
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BusinessDude1 year ago
"Based on your statements, it would appear that you feel Americans don't work as hard as they did when the gap between the rich and poor was smaller."
No, I have no opinion on this matter. Nor do I think I in any way insinuated what you said.
"your analogy of- you get what you earn- is far too simplistic and is really just a meaningless platitude,"
Um, not really. There is no reason to make it more complicated than it is. Those who work hard reap the rewards. You can say some people work hard and don't reap any rewards, and I'll ask you did they work hard in high school? Did they work hard in college? Did they get a meaningless degree or one they can actually use? And the majority of the time you will find that they didn't work hard at some point in their lives, which killed them later on. Or you'll find that they picked an easy degree that would be useless later on.
It's their own fault, plain and simple. Stop trying to make it into more than it is.
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inaroundabout1 year ago
You're right. It's simple isn't it? That's why economics class is only 10 minutes long. You walk in, sit down, and the prof. says "The harder you work the more money you'll make. Class dismissed." The only equation that matters is:
(work effort) (work time)=profit
It has nothing to do with supply or demand. It has nothing to do with the fact that you can easily make 50g a year sitting on the coach if your parents gave you a million dollars for your trust fund. It has nothing to do with government subsidies to corporations. All the matters is how hard a person works...
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inaroundabout1 year ago
Look, I've got no problem agreeing that hard work is an important and all to often under utilized method of obtaining wealth and success. It is not, however, the end all and be all of success or the only difference between the rich and the poor as you have made it out to be.
From what I've read you base your assumption that hard work = success on watching your father. While his story is inspiring it is what is known as anecdotal evidence and in no way, shape, or form a valid reason to generalize about the country as a whole.
Perhaps your father made it because he worked hard, or perhaps it was because he is smart, or maybe he is very creative, or perhaps he was just lucky. Most likely it was a combination of all of those things. Some poor people may be lazy, some rich people may be hard workers but to assume that there is a direct relation between hard work and success with no other factors is naive.
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BusinessDude1 year ago
I suppose my personal situation makes me not want to consider other perspectives as much as I should. Working on it.
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schismatist1 year ago
BusinessDude, How much money did your parents leave you? Or are you living on some other planet? Maybe you just don't have a soul and care less about other people. You seem about as friendly as a snapping turtle in heat. You say you "could care less", but your posts say the opposite. Real cause and concern for your fellow human being you got there. I'm sure you're setting a shining example of how to treat others to the people in you life, and if you've got kids, whoa, now that's scary!!
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saintetienne1 year ago
schismatist,
So now you're telling people how to raise their kids, and that they're supposed to have a 'soul', and care for everybody?
Is there no end to how you LooLooLibs want to dictate and control everyone else?
P.S. - - What business is it of yours if BusinessDude's parents left him any money? Or none at all? Huh? What business is it of yours?
I'd really like to know....
I'm waiting....
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schismatist1 year ago
I'm stating that people should have cause and concern for one another, even though I was being snippy, my point is still valid. I like how you have judged me into a category based on one comment, way to show you care about anyone but yourself. Read the rest of bdudes comments and other peoples responses, we are just trying to get him to lighten up a bit. But I appreciate you being able to figure me out by one comment!!
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dissent1 year ago
It's not about how hard you work because most people on this planet work their guts out to make a dollar or two a day. It's not even about how smart you work because a lot of people on this planet are probably very smart, but we will never know because they just haven't had the opportunity to receive even a basic education and the further opportunities that may bring so their left to do menial work for a dollar or two a day.
No, what it's REALLY all about is THE LUCK OF THE DRAW. What country you are born in, what time in history you are born in, what skin color you are born in, what kind of body, face and/or brain you are born with, what kind of money and background your family has, what school you went to, what college you went to, what university you went to and, to show that you are capable of some initiative on your own, whose and how many butts you kissed along the way to success. That's about 98% of it all. The stuff you are talking about is the variable in the remaining 2.
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badnootka1 year ago
In a perfect world the hard workers all get ahead. IN the US it is not necesssary. All you have to do is find the right loop hole and you can screw anyone you want and steal the money or resources. It has nothing to do with hartd work anymore. IT is who you know and what you can do for them. Being highly educated and intelligent and diligent does not guarantee you anything. If you are an idiot, yet you know the man in power, you have power. THat is how it works in the US today.
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quackpot1 year ago
A valid hypothesis explains the data.
Your hypothesis that hard work = high pay does NOT explain the finding that there is a widening gap between the wealthy and the poor and a decrease in the middle class.
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somecommonsense1 year ago
No you do have an opinion and it was easy to deduce from your statement, if the gap is widening and this is true, and the reason people dont earn more money and aquire wealth is that they are lazy and don't work hard enough, then people must be getting lazier...this isn't rocket science man, you said it. You should probably take a debate class, or some form of comparative politics, or pottery.
You remind me of the guy who was in Reagan's Administartion,I forget his name... he was speaking on poverty and said you see all those people on the free soup line, they aren't REALLY hungry they just want free soup!
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somecommonsense1 year ago
above comment for businessdude, who doesn't realize he has opinions.
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cheif1 year ago
If that's your logic, then we don't need to buy from a company that outsourced all their manufacturing overseas, right? After all, they're not entitled to our consumer dollar if they can't support American commerce.
I was in computers/aerospace and saw thousands of jobs outsourced from people who studied all their lives, put everything they had into the job, made a decent wage, but the company wanted more profit, so they ripped their lives out from under them and sent them to people who will NEVER buy their products, but work cheaper. Start over? Where? Eye-opener...ALL manufacturing is gone. Who supports the family while the hard working American who donated their job to higher profits goes back to school to learn a new trade?
By the way, the person who took his job got his education free. Who pays for the American to retool? If you make more than $15 an hour, look out. They want somebody for $5 an hour...hello??? Got a green card? By by American..hello new slave....
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BusinessDude1 year ago
"If that's your logic, then we don't need to buy from a company that outsourced all their manufacturing overseas, right? After all, they're not entitled to our consumer dollar if they can't support American commerce."
You can take your business wherever you like, I couldn't care less. If you think outsourcing is the devil, then go ahead and make a statement by not buying anything from companies that do it. Heck, if you get a big enough group of people involved maybe it will have an actual effect on the companies.
"Who supports the family while the hard working American who donated their job to higher profits goes back to school to learn a new trade?"
I don't know, figure it out. Maybe that person should have worked harder in high school and college and thereby avoided having an insecure manufacturing job in the first place.
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zonkra1 year ago
Yeah, if you work hard in high school
and then in college
you might even become President
and put to use all that knowledge!
Or you might be a slacker
a downright lazy liar
but with the right backer
you'll be the rich brat that they hire!
You could avoid military pesky distractions
even be a wartime deserter
you could be a business failure pursuing other attractions
with the right connections your could get away with murder!
But if you're a poor sap or middle class
or a minority or an unwealthy woman
you can work as hard as you want and you won't get a pass
you're like a pleb to an Imperial Roman!
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BusinessDude1 year ago
"But if you're a poor sap or middle class or a minority or an unwealthy woman you can work as hard as you want and you won't get a pass."
With that attitude you are correct that you won't get anywhere. However, being poor currently (since I'm in college and all), and coming from a middle class family, I can tell you that I have the opportunity to make it big, without the "right connections". The harder I work, the better a chance I have.
Get a reality check buddy, and stop being so lazy.
There are tons of people making it big in this country who start with nothing, just because you aren't one of them doesn't mean you have to whine about it. It's called having a decent work ethic, which you obviously don't.
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zonkra1 year ago
Perhaps there's one thing
upon which we can all agree?
The most pathetic attitude you can bring
is that of a middle class Republican wannabe?
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dissent1 year ago
You're still in college? Well, there goes your cred. And you're telling people to get a reality check! lol! Yours hasn't even begun yet! Not by a long shot. Get back to us in 20 years when you've learnt how to suck eggs, because even if you do become successful, and I sincerely hope you do, you're going to find yourself putting these thoughts down to the naivity of youth. I hear what you're saying, but man, you're just a kid! I thought the same when I was your age and I had the world at my feet then too, just like you. Been there, done that. You have no idea what the world is going to do to you. Good luck! You'll need it. Like I said, it's all the luck of the draw.
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Natureboy1 year ago
However, being poor currently (since I'm in college and all), and coming from a middle class family, I can tell you that I have the opportunity to make it big"
Well, there you go again. Bourgeoise values and no life experience to support them.
Talk to you in ten years when you have been well screwed - it's a better education than the one you've been getting in college.
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badnootka1 year ago
There are also "tons of people" who have gone out and "got ther right degree" and worked hard and still lost their jobs due to corporate greed. When the copmpany that hired you decides that it no longer needs to pay you your 100,000 a year as they can get Kuldeep to do the same job for 25,000 will you still be trying to sell the work hard BS. THere is no fair play in business. It is about profit at the expense of the workers both the hard working ones and the others. Greed does not descriminate.
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BusinessDude1 year ago
Wow, that's actually right....you're good!
I guess the main reason my opinions are the way they happen to be is because of my father. He started off life about as poor as you can possibly be, with 8 siblings and parents that barely made enough money to put food on the table.
He worked his ass off, picking strawberries 12 hours a day while he was a kid, saving up for college. He ended up getting FIVE different college degrees. But the hard work didn't stop there, he worked for a law firm at first, finances were rough, but he managed to get by.
He later left the firm and joined a 3 way partnership. The other 2 lawyers screwed him over time and time again for his hard work, and treated my mom like crap. Did this deter him? No!
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BusinessDude1 year ago
He quit the 3 way partnership and started his own law practice, and his hard work paid off. He is also a champion of the working poor. He sometimes provides free legal services for those who can't afford them. He provides cheaper rates for those who have less income as well.
When I look at his life and what he's done, and when I see him put in 12 hour days at his law office, I realize that people who complain about being poor or having bad jobs have no leg to stand on.
Get off your lazy ass and make yourself a better life!
My dad is proof that you can go from nothing to being successful, so stop giving me this "let's redistribute everyone's money" bull crap.
Now I'm at a $40,000/year college and I can't even get any free grants, not one single cent, while my dad is getting his ass taxed off and can't afford to pay my way through without taking out a 2nd mortgage. Is this fair? I think not.
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humemacdonald1 year ago
BusinessDude your dad sounds like a wonderful man and generous. However don't base your whole worldview on the life of one man, poverty isn't the only thing that holds some people back.
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dissent1 year ago
Both of you are right. Your father took a calculated risk that paid off, and from what you say about him he sounds like he deserved it and much more. But risk is still just another word for luck. It's all a gamble. There's no getting away from it. The best laid plans of mice and men...........
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canadianrancher571 year ago
The world has changed since the time your dad started and today, granted hard work can help get you ahead in this world but it is not a sure thing. I think that there is a difference between doing really well and rich.
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BusinessDude1 year ago
And let's not also forget the screwed up financial aid system.
There are plenty of poor people at my school who get their college fully paid for. What's with the way the tax brackets and the aid system are setup anyway? Are middle class families supposed to always have to take out mortgages while if you come from a poor family you always get everything paid for? Wait, who's paying more in taxes? Oh yea, the middle class family. What the hell is going on here?
I bet the poor won't complain about how they get so much free money for college now will they?
The government of this country slaps hard workers in the face with over-taxation. And then people come on here and say "tax people more, and give their money to the poor". Seriously, why don't you all go and screw off!
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badnootka1 year ago
I think the engineer who graduated with honors in the industry and earned his salary and much mor for his company who lost his job to outsourcing would not agree with you. THe people who loose their jobs to outsourcing did not loose them because they were not working hard enough as you suggest. THey lost their job not because they did not ge the right degree, or did not work hard enough. THey lost their job becvause of the greed of their employer who felt that an uneducated Pakistani would be a much better worker (can you read work real hard) if he was paid $2.00 perhour than the american who wants $15.00 per hour. Hard work meant nothing. THe engineers degree meant nothing. Profit meant everything>
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Ceejsing1 year ago
What kind of cracker jack box degree in engineering would you have to have to be working for $15/hour? Engineering jobs typically run from 40K/yr to 100K/yr, depending on the experience of the job holder, the particular engineering field, and the difficulty level of the job.
People with degrees in engineering do not usually have a hard time finding decent paying work. If their particular field should have a slump, their strong background in math and science serves them well in other fields like education. I think you are confusing engineering with some other field that does not require advanced degrees or licensing.
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Moss_Ryder1 year ago
A flawed argument. The simple fact is, there are not enough high-paying jobs to go around. No matter how hard some folks work, there simply are NOT enough high-paying jobs for the hard workers. So get off your "If you work hard you'll get ahead" high-horse, cause it simply isn't true.
And give me a break, college today is a joke and a scam.
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BusinessDude1 year ago
Wow. You really just don't get it do you?
If you work hard in high school, get a 4.0 or close to it (which is not that hard assuming you actually put some effort into your work unlike the average high school student), get into a good college, get good grades, and pick a useful degree, you WILL get ahead.
Stop making up excuses for your apparent laziness in high school and/or college and start owning up to your own mistakes.
College today is a joke and a scam? What does that mean? Nobody should go? Great idea, we'll just stop educating people. However, I must admit (as a current college student) that the way colleges pick curriculum doesn't always make the most sense.
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NoWayMan1 year ago
what you don't get are facts like on wall street a white man with a criminal record is more likely to get the job than a black man with a clean record.
or that a woman still only makes 77% of what a man makes for the same job.
as long as these are truths, everything you say simply isn't true.
I don't think college is a "scam" but I also know for a fact that in many ways it doesn't matter. wait til you get out here in the real world. its not at all what you think it is. the playing field is not level. and this world is still more about who you know than about what you know.
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BusinessDude1 year ago
My high qualifications already scored me an internship with a major technical company, and I had not one single connection there, so obviously you don't know what you're talking about.
Let me guess, you were a slacker in school? In high school I was the one with no social life. I spent all my time starting businesses and getting good grades. Don't give me this crap about how working hard doesn't get you anywhere, because it does.
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Dave591 year ago
Well I will say with your "high qualifications" An internship is certainly a huge prize. Don't fool your simple self into thinking any of the full time people there will give you a break because of your "qualifications". You can work as hard as you wish and when they are done with you...out like yesterdays trash.
Until you have lived a few years in the real world don't proclaim other people losers or slackers. Your disdain for others is a fault that you should attempt to correct. It will lead to false assumptions and expectations. Many times the conclusions you reach through this kind of thinking are not correct.
From reading your posts I would say your own downfall will be your total belief that you are so much better than the next person.
BusinessDude, you would be much better off trying to understand how to work with people instead of telling them how superior you believe yourself to be.
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Searchbeam1 year ago
Sorry Dave, I accidentally gave you a neg.
My apologies!
I agree with you 100%!
BusinessDude is in for an unpleasant surprise. An ego trip like that is going to help him get to the door faster than he can say "internship"!
Unless his father happens to own the company, he has to work with other people who have invested their hard work in their jobs. They can smell an arrogant fake a mile away. On his way out, he wouldn't even know how it happened.
Humility and respect are the two most cherished qualities in your life.
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BusinessDude1 year ago
Clearly you know nothing about workplace politics in a company setting.
Saying I have "high qualifications" is not arrogance, it is merely stating that I was well qualified for the position. I only mentioned "high qualifications" to help illustrate the point that you don't necessarily need connections to get a job anywhere. If you work hard, you can still get a good job.
I have already talked to plenty of full time people there and they all said the same thing: Once you score an internship you are basically in if you want a full time position later.
At any rate, I probably won't even want a full time position there later. I prefer to work for myself, not be a corporate slave.
I agree that humility and respect are cherished qualities, and I have both.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year ago
you can only hope? what about yer nose and that grindstone?
this flies on the face of your earlier 'work harder' rhetoric
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BusinessDude1 year ago
I don't think I'm better than anyone else, I only mentioned "high qualifications" to illustrate the point that you don't necessarily need connections to get a good job. Stop insinuating things that are incorrect.
"You can work as hard as you wish and when they are done with you...out like yesterdays trash."
Well if that's the case then companies would fire all their best workers and fail. What kind of logic is that? Grow up.
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humemacdonald1 year ago
As long as you are not in the accounting department for Dell, it's all good-lol
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Searchbeam1 year ago
Wait a minute there, pardner!
Are you saying that Customer Service does not make real difference to the company?
If you are, I wonder which College gave you the degree you are flashing around.
Wake up, my friend! You have a lot of learning to do.
The first lesson, pardner, is that "Customer signs your paycheck. No customer, no paycheck - no matter what degree you have."
And you are saying that you have started a business? Take it from someone who has his successful business for many, many years. You better start giving top notch customer service, or your business would become history before you even know it!
That is what I was telling you about: a little humility and a lot of respect goes a long way towards success!
Learn to learn!
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somecommonsense1 year ago
Don't count your chickens man, just because you have some lame business degree, probably from some third world rated college doesnt mean your gonna be Bill Gates ok? In my opinion school is a joke anyway, I went never finished I own 3 different companies and it looks like 08 09 and 2010 will be filled with cash for me,now my wife, she went to medical school because she wants to be a doctor, fine I'm proud of her, I hope she makes alot of money soon and gives me some...but quit it with this I'm in business school nonsense, probably one of the easier degrees to get unless you're at a really good top 25 school, and who cares anyway, you'll end up another rat in the wheel,
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NoWayMan1 year ago
sounds like you need to get out more.
I never said working hard doesn't get you anywhere. but you should know that working hard won't get you everything you think it will get you. and money doesn't buy happiness.
and you're guess about me is wrong.
I got good grades, went to a good university, have three degrees (two advanced), have worked for 'the man' and owned my own business, have travelled the world, etc etc.
and I'm telling you, you are one naive, arrogant p.o.s.
I can't wait until the real world jumps up and bites you on the arse. because it will. guaranteed.
think of me when it does.
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cloud151 year ago
"what you don't get are facts like on wall street a white man with a criminal record is more likely to get the job than a black man with a clean record."
Thats a good point, but dont forget at that same time, this black man could get into colleges the white man couldnt with worse GPA or SAT scores. Hell if your native american you can practically sleep your way through high school and go to an ivy league school.
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humemacdonald1 year ago
Hmmm ... just what I thought you are still in College.I too worked hard in High School got into one of Canada's top universities- 4.0 GPA Dean's Scholar but that does not mean that we are all destined for big $$$$. We need people with lots of different specialties, talents to form a healthy society. I worked in Banking and hated it because I am more suited to a "helping" profession like Social Work. I have never been lazy and at one point in my life worked full time while going to school. I have cashed in all my savings pretty well to finance this change in career- it is worth it to me. Life is not so black and white as you present it.
That is why it really irks me when idiots like car name avatar on the next page make assumptions about someone else's life.
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Aurinkohirvi1 year ago
Dusinessdude, it's you who doesn't get it. As Moss Rider said: "there's not enough high-paying jobs for the hard workers".
So it doesn't matter if every American worked hard. If they all studied hard. If they all eductaed themselves the best you can in America (well, of course that's impossible). The corporations would not pay high salary to everyone no matter how hard workers they are, because it would cut the corporations' profits. That's the situation you are in now, and it won't change working harder. It may change for someone (and more probably may not), but it can't help everyone.
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NoWayMan1 year ago
there are a lot of corporations selling out america right now.
they're making it so even if you do work hard, you still probably won't get your piece of the pie.
and when you have a govt. in place that is r
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