10 rescuers reported injured at mine »
Posted By STONERS 1 year, 1 month ago in NewsAt least 10 people working to find six men trapped in coal mine were injured Thursday night, authorities said.
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STONERS1 year, 1 month ago
"It is believed that the accident was caused by a bump. ... We are in the process of doing a head count to ensure that everyone is accounted for," said Dirk Fillpot, spokesman for the Mine Safety and Health Administration.
A bump commonly refers to pressure inside the mine that shoots coal from the walls with great force.
The extent of the injuries in the Crandall Canyon mine was not immediately clear.
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jai611 year, 1 month ago
Who Cares!!!!! Is this the first time there was ever a Mine cave in?? There are hundres of similar accidents every year. This accident is part of the job when your a Miner. Its not the biggest news story. Put a Big head stone at the mine and have a mass and move on. This is Pathetic.
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ecotourusa1 year, 1 month ago
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i say we educate our men to do a more progressive job in the alternative energy sector!!!
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Shadowolf1 year, 1 month ago
As to those brave people who put it ALL on the line to try to save those trapped inside...THAT'S what heros do!!!
Anyone sneering at them is beneath contempt!!!
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BronxBomber1 year, 1 month ago
Folks, this is just a suggestion, but there's only ONE thing we can do to help. Pray, pray to you're Higher Power of you're understanding. You may not think it's much, but prayer can't hurt either, and often that helps a lot! Thank you!
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joeblowe1 year, 1 month ago
Unless you live in the area and can provide hot meals to those ACTUALLY assisting, you may as well admit it - there is NOTHING you can do. Asking your invisible friend to help is absurd - if he was THAT good a friend, would He have allowed this mine to collapse in the first place? And, since He DID allow the mine to collapse in the first place, why would you think He would now suddenly switch sides and HELP the very people he put into this situation?
No, the only sensible thing to do is.... nothing. And trust that the people who ARE in a position to actually do something useful, ARE doing as much as they can to the best of their ability. If YOU really WERE there, isn't that what YOU would be doing? Of course it is.
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OsteoFitKit1 year, 1 month ago
I hope this accident makes us search out alternative energy resources.
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
Thank you gentlemen, Stoners and Communist. The miners and those rescuing them are paying a high price for their efforts. To the three who died, may they rest in peace and be remembered as the heroes they are.
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DavePave1 year, 1 month ago
That's why I am somewhat religious. I would have a tough time praying to Darwin or America's leading scientist Al Gore.
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audia4quattro20t1 year, 1 month ago
You're wrong. We care about making fun of Al Gore. It's just so easy.
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phleghem011 year, 1 month ago
What would they have discovered to prevent this by studying more?
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joeblowe1 year, 1 month ago
Think about that for a second -- make it a minute. What, exactly, is the point of praying to a God who has the power to do whatever he wants, and WILL do whatever he wants REGARDLESS of any puny human input - to ask Him to just go ahead and do whatever He was going to do anyway? Total waste of time.
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NeoWiccan1 year, 1 month ago
If they find the miners alive it will be a great success, if not then at least we will know what happened.
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Lillieh121 year, 1 month ago
Since there have been so many accidents in the mines and many miners if they didn't die,they have been trapped.
By now some kind of rescue ides should have come up.
Where is OSHA, or is OSHA out of mine limits? Why don't the safety officials make it a law for miners to have either bull horns or trackers? If they get trapped, which in this case they did, at least with the bull horn ,they could be heard or with trackers, their whereabouts would be known.
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aceofspades11 year, 1 month ago
As of now at least 3 of the rescuers have died - while we argue the state of the world with the same old same old - these brave men are risking & losing their lives to actually try to save a fellow human. We should all be thankful that there are people like this among us.
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Shirtless1 year, 1 month ago
My maternal grandfather was a coal miner in Pennsylvania in the 1920's, so these tragedies always have special meaning for our family. The arrogance of the mine owner is appalling. Over 300 safety violations. When are the greedy Republicans going to do something about mine safety in this country? How many more miners must die, while the mine owners rack up violations and profits?
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nostalgia1 year, 1 month ago
I also grew up in mining country in western PA. Many of my friends had fathers who worked in the mines
You have to question the state also. The states all have departments of mine safety. The states have been negligent in many instances.
For example:
"The federal Mine Safety and Health Administration took comments on its new rule that to increases standards for underground seals that close off abandoned parts of coal mines. Blown out seals were a factor in the Sago and Darby mine disasters that killed 17 miners. But some companies and regulators think MSHA's new rule is too difficult to comply with, including WV mine safety chief Ron Wooten."
The states always seem to object to more stringent rules coming out of MSHA - the Federal Agency that regulates mine safety.
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nostalgia1 year, 1 month ago
In Nevada, the Department of Business and Industry through the Division of Industrial Relations, Mine Safety and Training Section is responsible for mine health and safety training program . The Mine Safety and Training Section also conducts mine safety and health inspections, conducts health surveys, provides consultations and technical assistance ranging from training program development to ventilation, boiler and pressure vessel inspection, industrial hygiene, and implements problem solving techniques and approaches to the many health and safety issues encountered in the Nevada mines.
This department was established in Nevada in 1909.
State regulations on mining can be more stringent than Federal - just not more lax.
I'd ask first - What was the state of Nevada doing?
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djrevelky1 year, 1 month ago
Shirtless,
Sorry to disillusion you...but George Bush doesn't control the world. I know its really hard to understand.
But ya see...there are these things, and there are 50 of them...they are called states. And these states also have a governor, for each state.
And each governor has an office under him called "The Department of Mine Safety" (or something like that).
And the "Department of Mine Safety" investigate mines to *gasp* make sure they are safe!
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Shirtless1 year, 1 month ago
The President of the United States, whoever that might be at any given time, controls a good deal of the world, and he can also set an example, and encourage proper conduct, but the current occupant of the White House has not done that.
For an example of the control and power that can be exercised by the President of the United States, recall the example of the singer, Eartha Kitt. Back in the 1960's, she was invited to one of Lady Bird Johnson's tea parties at the White House. Ms. Kitt engaged in a totally inappropriate rant-and-rave about the Vietnam War and reduced poor Lady Bird to tears in front of her guests (disagree with the war if you want to, but it was not Lady Bird's fault, and that is not the way to express disagreement). Well, Lyndon put the word out. It was 25 years AFTER HE WAS DEAD before Eartha Kitt could get any worthwhile engagements in the United States. She spent that time primarily in Europe.
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Kat421 year, 1 month ago
I know what you mean. My paternal grandfather was a coal miner in Maryland at the turn of the century. It is unimaginable to me that safety has not progressed any farther than this after so much time. Even with the high tech machinery they now have, and with safer explosives and transport, miners are still at the mercy of walls surrounding them. But, the Republicans really don't have anything to do with it. Most of the safety regulations and survivor's benefits now in place have come about as a result of the union. Mine owners have been trying to break the union ever since it was begun - and it was a bloody fight to get it going in the first place.
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questionseverything1 year, 1 month ago
this wasnt a union mine which prob accounts for the 300 violations and it was still being worked
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vettenut1 year, 1 month ago
Shirtless:
We are all saddened for the loss of life in the Utah mine situation, and we pray for the grieving families.
But I had to sigh when I read your post....
Let's keep some perspective in all this! Contrary to what you read on the Internet and see on TV:
1. Everything wrong in the world IS NOT the Republican's fault.
2. EEEVILLLE corporate owners do NOT want their valuable employees to be injured or killed on the job--the last time I checked, almost all injured or dead workers were NOT as productive as healthy, alive workers. The EEEVILLLE corporations do NOT make money when their mines are shut down, and when people die.
3. The EEEVILLLE corporations are not competing to see who can "rack up more violations." Those violations are NOT profits. And profit is not EEEVILLLE! Would you rather work for a profitable company that is planning to stay in business, or for a failing company that could close at any time????!!!
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RickyDawkins1 year, 1 month ago
The mine owner in this case is a republican "coal executive". Coincidence?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st...
http://origin.sltrib.com/ci_6570325
Murray is strident in his belief that global warming is a fraud. In June, he told a Senate committee that Congressional Democrats and former Vice President Al Gore are bent on "the destruction of American lives and more death as a result of his hysterical global goofiness with no environmental benefit."
Murray backs his political beliefs with his pocketbook. He contributed more than $213,000 to Republican candidates over the last decade. Three political action committees tied to Murray's businesses have given $724,500 to Republican candidates and causes, including $4,000 to Rep. Chris Cannon.
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Shirtless1 year, 1 month ago
Operating a business lawfully and operating it at a profit are not mutually-exclusive endeavors. The mine owners who incur violations see them as a "cost of doing business" and are not concerned about worker safety. To eliminate that attitude, we need to increase the fines. Sentencing some of them to prison for involuntary manslaughter would help too.
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Obaku1 year, 1 month ago
Probably the fact that they had already had one collapse, before the one that trapped the six miners, and shut down that part of the mine, and then continued to mine in an adjacent section.
What's the name of that game where you pull sticks out the stack, trying not to make the whole thing fall?
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joeblowe1 year, 1 month ago
You must consider the perspective of those rescue workers. In their minds, IT COULD BE THEM trapped down there. And maybe next time, it WILL be. Of COURSE they are going to work just as hard, and as fast, as they are able to attempt a rescue. The problem SEEMS to be with the actual MINE and safety standards, lack of, NOT with the miners.
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B1BLancer1 year, 1 month ago
Yes, it could be them, and if they try to go back in the way the mountain is now, there's a good chance it WILL be them. Somebody has got to be willing to take the stand and say "no more" until the mine can be made safe to enter. The likelihood is that we have 9 dead people. We don't need any more.
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