News – The Yugoslav war crimes tribunal convicted a wartime leader of Croatia's rebel Serbs of murder, torture and persecution Tuesday and sentenced him to 35 years in prison for a brutal ethnic cleansing campaign of non-Serbs in Croatia.
Very very sad to see what misguided humans are capable of, but heartening to see that justice has been served.
In a bizarre way, his actions serve a lesson to us that it is not only the fundamentalism of Muslims, Jews and Christians that can be propelled toward intense, destructive forces.
Perhaps with that in mind, we can be less likely to stereotype: clearly all humans are capable of this on some twisted level.
Admittedly, Christians and Jews have a violent past and have made many, many mistakes that they should be ashamed of. But I wouldn't even put them in the same UNIVERSE as fundamental Muslims. They are truly twisted, violent, nasty, dangerous people. Anyone who can't see the difference between these groups needs to have their eyes - and their head - examined.
Sorry, even "fundamental Muslims" have not committed atrocities on the level that you claim. 1 MILLION Muslims were massacred by Greek Orthodox CHIRISTIANS all in the name of JESUS. The extermination was BLESSED by the BISHOPS as a "HOLY WAR"
"Admittedly, Christians and Jews have a violent past and have made many, many mistakes that they should be ashamed of."
That's an understatement!!! Ask Hitler He killed 6 million Jews and 5 million "others" all in the name of JESUS.
Read Mein Kampf
Does that mean all Christians are genocidal maniacs? Absolutely NOT.
I think it is you that needs your "eyes" and "head" examined.
And to whom are you the promised one? If I can ask ...What does Mein Kampf, a ghost-written nonsensical drivel, which was written in prison for a Jew, have to do with this thread?
I agree wholeheartedly with what you've written to saint etienne (lol ...what a name) specifically about the "fundamental Muslims". IMHO there are many in here, through the obsecurity afforded by the internet, which is so apparent by the lack of biographies of our writers. They write a lot, but you can never read about their backgrounds.....
Is this any different from what has been happening in Iraq the past 4 years ?? Iraqis have been slaughtered, maimed and bombed (remember 'shock 'n awe'??) for years now. Innocent Iraqis have been tortured, detained, and murdered.....all under the guise of "war".....a war declared by Bush for WMD....which he knew never existed. The 'plan' to invade a foreign country, murder their leader, take over the oil reserves and institute a permanent US presence in the Middle East was hatched at the start of the Bush II presidency....911 merely gave them the chance to create enough fear in the US populace to let them get away with it....Bush et al should be next before the war crimes tribunal !!
What you described isn't ethnic cleansing, so it is different.
SlapALib.....you call it whatever you want to .... the truth won't go away no matter what you call it....Bush is guilty of war crimes....he should be held accountable...
I find calling for Bush to face charges of war crimes a little disingenuous. If the Iraqis are going to let the US depose their former ruler and then set up a new government, then they can deal with the consequences.
You can call it want, but the truth won't go away. Now maybe if the world had stood up and demanded Saddam's restoration and recompense, then you might have a point.
And let us not forget that the world was content to STARVE 500,000 Iraqi children while enforcing sanctions. Guess it's not murder when the world turns its back on people.
The Slavs have been killing each other for many years - WWI started with an assassination there ,during WWII some of the worst atrocities against the Jews were carried out by Slavs - Tito was the only unifier they had - then came the 1990's & the killing resumed, funny thing is most was carried out by Christians against Muslims. Now everyone has their own state & the killers are at peace and the Sunday Travel section advertises vacations in Croatia. Maske sure you have an Uzi in your swimshorts - just in case....
Time4change is obviously not an educated or informed individual. What he or she alleges is a rediculous display of ingnorance of the facts or truth. Maybe this is an Al Quaida sympathiser or collaborator. I realize that may be a little harsh, but sure this person is misguided, illogical, and out of touch with reality. What few people outside of the middle east and Europe realize is that the war on terrorism is real and it will not end when President Bush leaves office. The democrats are playing America for a fool and I must admit that our national character is to be impatient and expect only short wars to solve conflicts, when this one calls for longterm commitment of the national will. Sadly I think Americans are too weak to understand or make that commitment. The US did not invade Iraq for Oil-if we had, then why aren't we running the oli fields and reaping the rewards? The threat and oppression of Saddam were real. Al Quaida is real-better fought in Iraq than America.
"The US did not invade Iraq for Oil-if we had, then why aren't we running the oli fields and reaping the rewards? The threat and oppression of Saddam were real. Al Quaida is real-better fought in Iraq than America."
Iron, the U.S. is an empire of the modern day. When we invaded, many Oil fields were secured for various reasons. Like empires of the past they come and they go after a period of reign. The U.S. knows this, and it was for Oil not to fight those maniacs Al-Qeada. Al-Qeada came into Iraq AFTER the invasion. I think it is best if people sat down with a timeline of events that happened in Iraq since the invasion and get some issues straight its quite the tedious process but worth it before making statements that are not true.
Peace to all.
ThePromisedOne says: When we invaded, many Oil fields were secured for various reasons.
Like for instance Saddam blew then all up in the last war he lost. We had to go in and stop that massive air pollution....we went in and secured the oil fields to stop that from happening again....DUH
No you can not bring up the fact that Saddam torched all the wells when they left Kuwait. That would be not a fair thing to say. But if anyone wants a reminder.
http://edcwww.cr.usgs.gov/earthshots/slow/Iraq/...
This is a shot from space. Now these were no ordinary fires. Seeing that all that red you see is a big part of the land. Wonder what kind of damage that did to our enviroment? Nah that is asking to much.
I cannot remember just who he was killing, was it Muslims ???Did any one ever think he was doing us a favor by exterminating muslims?? Maybe we should have gave him a medal?? We save muslims, so they can kill us??? Thats not too smart..Then--we sould--NEVER RE ELECT ANY POLITICIAN--EVER--Politicians are lower than snakes in the grass..
"The US did not invade Iraq for Oil-if we had, then why aren't we running the oil fields and reaping the rewards?"
when saddam controlled the oil it was around $25.00 a barrel. After GW and dick got control it tripled in price.
my father recently went to germany and greece for vacation. he purchased his heart medication for around 2 euros. here it costs around $46??????? the drugs are made here by an american company.
same thing goes for oil. just because we control iraq's oil doesnt mean you are going to get it cheaper. only the oil companies are going to benefit. HMMM EXXON maybe......
if Halliburton can charge $100 for a hammer im sure they will cut us a brake and give us a discount on the oil.
It's not just the oil companies that are benefiting, it's the government. They're making millions out of this war, as I mentioned in the other comment. The only reason (I believe) they went to war with Iraq WAS for money. Not to seek WMD's (which I doubt existed).
Btw, the Iraqi civilian body count is not up to at least 65,000 people. (www.iraqbodycount.org)
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He got what he deserved. Bring them ALL and throw the keys far away.
who is this spammer and what is he/she doing here?
and i'll say it again, metrix, NOBODY LIKES SPAM!!!
The west is so lame at times.....
A good point about why the "tribunals" aren't putting too many of these D..bags away is exemplified by the newsline here..."Serb jailed over..."????? Serb??? His name is Milan Martic!!!!! A piece of shi* that should be stepped on and washed off the bottom of the shoe. He only gets 35 lousy years.... He needs to be tied down in a turkish jail cell and reamed every day of the 35 years (hopefully the pain is extreme) to even come close as compensation to the anguish he caused mankind. Finally, when the 35 years are over ...excecute him with his family going first.
Now that is an example of the hatred that is still festering in Bosnia.
You mean like NATO bombing of civilans in Yugosalavia with
cluster bombs,Bombing 2 time passing passanger train in Surdulica or Maternity Hospitla in Belgrade.
http://www.againstbombing.org/natowarcrimes.htm
http://www.mediamonitors.net/gowans23.html
http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/A3338_0_2_0_C/
and Amnesty Internatinal
http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/intcam/kosovo/inde...