News – From the article: "Hamas gunmen stormed a Fatah security headquarters in Gaza City on Tuesday, moving Palestinians closer to civil war, minutes after the Islamist group's deadline for Fatah to quit key facilities expired. After the deadline passed, witnesses said gunmen from Hamas's armed wing attacked against a large security compound of Fatah's national security forces in Gaza City."
Allahu Akbar. They all need 72 virgins. They all live in their own misery. They hate to see kids and families going about their daily lives. They only capable of preaching hate and destruction. They brainwash their kids that they must killed themselves and others in order to have a better life. Bunch of low life's scumbags
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They only capable of preaching hate and destruction. They brainwash their kids that they must killed themselves and others in order to have a better life. Bunch of low life's scumbags
As you brainwash your own people to have a peaceful and better life, that you should kill people in the Middle East, and then get killed. Your solders are killed everyday, and their parents are cursing Bush & co, what is the difference? Muslims get their reward as 72 virgins if they die resisting your policies of oppression, and your soldiers' family get medals and perhaps hand outs.
LMAO. Man, you are deluded. America doesn't send children to blow up themselves and "the enemy". The level of fanaticism with these people shows how truly sick they really are. 72 virgins? What a hoot! Interesting that for a culture that oppresses women so terribly, when they die for Allah they get 72 virgins to deflower. What?? I wonder what the virgins have to say about sharing their man with 71 other women. By the way, we're killing people in the Middle East because Middle Eastern people want to kill us wherever we are. And going back to the article for this thread, it is proof yet again for the umpteenth time that Islamic extremists are nothing but sick puppies that know only murder as a way of resolving differences. If not the Israelis, then the Americans; if not the Americans then other Islamists who happen to be on a different page. Personally, I'm glad to hear the news. Mutual eradication couldn't come soon enough. These people are a cancer on the earth.
It is just wonderful that the religion of peace has taken over gaza so that the true believers can finally vanquish the false Palestinians who want to make peace and recognize Israel. 60 years of doing the same thing day after day and expecting different results really sums up the mentality of the Palestinian leaders. It is obviously more important for Hamas to rule than it is for the people to have security and peace. I would pray for them but my god doesn't recognize them.
How would you feel if your lifeblood had been cut off? If you lived on less than a dollar a day because the whole world decided to sanction your country. There is no money to pay government officials, teachers, doctors, where would that leave you? How would you feed yourself and your family. Before you speak think of what is going on there.
Money is a rich mans measure of how sucessful he is! I wouldn't kidnap anybody that tried to help and publicly behead them cause their religous beliefs were different than mine. Grab a hoe instead of a gun, plant something other than bodies.
Conveniently ignoring the fact that Israel obliterated the olive groves that were once used to make a living. The fault lies on both sides. To suggest otherwise is pure hypocrisy.
Twice this land was used to wage a full on war with Israel. Why the he11 did the Un make Isarel give it back anyway. The only ones to blame for their hardships are their own leaders. Just like Nasser destroyed Egypt, their leaders will be the cause of their demise.
Sirat,
There was a great story that Michael Medved was covering today about a mother of six who lives in between two buildings. One run by Hamas, the other Fatah. Yet she still works to feed her family, and keep her kids in school. Just because you are poor, or are dealing with hardships, does not give you the right to kill, kidnap, or commit acts of terrorism.
"The fault lies on both sides. To suggest otherwise is pure hypocrisy"
and doesn't help anybody!
Its cheap and easy to condemn these outrageous goings on from the comfort of a home with electricity and running water and freedom to come and go wherever you like.
Life in Gaza is unbearable. The people are literally fenced in without any hope or opportunity of escape.
I guarantee that those of us who can sit in the comfort of our armchairs with our computers online and pontificate about the rights and wrongs and the good guys and the bad guys would preserve our humane and human facades for about 15 minutes if we were confronted by the overwhelming horror of bare survival in Gaza.
"Life in Gaza is unbearable. The people are literally fenced in without any hope or opportunity of escape. "
Not quite correct. They can leave.
And where can they go?
Other Arab countries. I'm sure their fellow Arabs will treat them as brothers.
Yeah right!
Is there a problem?
People seem to accept it as axiomatic that Jews can be thrown out of their homes and that's a good thing. And when Arabs murder each other, it's also the fault of the Jews. Well, if the Jews can leave, so can the Arabs. Since the Jews left Gaza, and the fighting escalated, I think it's safe to conclude that it wasn't the Jews that was the source of the problem.
"People seem to accept it as axiomatic that Jews can be thrown out of their homes and that's a good thing. "
Which "people"?
Someone said something like that on this thread?
If they did I missed it.
However to imply that the Jews are lily-white innocents in relation to Gaza is hubris of the first order.
"Which "people"? "
V.O.R. and Daylight, for two. Others have said as much on other threads.
"Someone said something like that on this thread?"
If you'll look at the posts by V.O.R. and Daylight, you may not see those exact words, but it's close enough.
"If they did I missed it."
I believe you missed it. Whether you did so deliberately or innocently depends on how you react now that I've pointed it out to you. If you spin V.O.R.'s and Daylight's positions, then I think it's safe to assume it's deliberate.
"However to imply that the Jews are lily-white innocents in relation to Gaza is hubris of the first order."
Just how guilty are the Jews? After all, they're no longer in Gaza. The Arabs had a golden opportunity after the Jews were forced out. They could have governed themselves peacefully and worked towards a better life for themselves and their children. Did that happen? Don't blame the Jews for a moment and answer the question: In your opinion, did the Arabs made the right choices for themselves? Why did they elect Hamas instead of the PLO? Why do they allow the launching of rockets into "Israel proper", and when Israel tries to retaliate against a Hamas leader do women and children go to that leader's house and act as a human shield? Why do they use Mickey Mouse to teach their children to hate?
While you conveniently ignore the fact that the bloodthirsty and murderous Arabs were using those olive groves to launch attacks on innocent Jews.
Yeah..
Bloodthirsty and murderous Arabs and innocent Jews!!
Theatre of the absurd!
OK, if that's absurd, tell me - Thirty four-year-old Tali Hatuel, who was eight months pregnant, and her four daughters, were shot at close range while traveling by car in the Gaza Strip. The gunman deliberate shot Tali in her belly. What were they guilty of? What did they do, in your "enlightened" opinion to deserve being murdered by the "innocent" Arab?
sirat, your statements demonstrate exactly what the arab world has been doing for hundreds of years.
Which is, when you can't be peaceful and reason with your own problems, blame everyone else.
Blaming Israel, blaming America, and blaming the world just doesn't solve anything and never will. That is the easy way without confronting their own problems caused by none other than themselves.
It is just too bad they are too ignorant to realize it.
Let them kill each other if they want to die so badly for their god. Makes no difference to me. More unreasonable lunatics in this world we won't have to worry about.
RedSoxGirl,
THANK you for a sensible - and true - comment. It's rare that there is someone with common sense on Nutscape.
Let's hope all the crazies just kill each other off and leave the people alone who just want to live a peaceful life and enact some positive changes.
Does it really escape you why the money was cut off? Get down off of your soap box, and recognize that the Palestinians are nothing more than pawns in an arab game that has continued for 60 years now. The arab countries could have helped the Palestinians when they were living in squalor under Jordanian and Egyptian rule. Not one cent was sent by any arab country. It was great propoganda to let the world see how they were forced to live in squalor while in exile from their beloved homes. It hasn't changed today. Hamas refuses to recognize Israel and uses the money factor to portray the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza as suffering because of Israel and the rest of the world. Hamas won't agree to peace with Israel not even for the sake of the Palestinians. It wouldn't serve their extremest purpose. Unfortunately, the poor Palestinians must once again live under a Moslem government who doesn't care the least bit about them or anything but their own agenda.
The "poor" Palestinians?
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I don't feel sorry for them, or ANY of these people.
Look above to the comments of RedSoxGirl and ken7658448, if you want to see what the issue is (RedSoxGirl) and how to solve it (ken7658448).
The solutions are there. I don't want to hear anything more on this tired, idiotic subject.
Saintetienne, I happen to agree with you however the family that just wants to live in peace are the real losers. Israel has every right to cut off the money. As everyone will notice, Israel isn't the problem here. The Palestinians could have been living in peace with Israel 60 years ago. It is their arab brethren and the likes of Arafat and now Hamas that keeps this insane situation from achieving anything other than death and despair. Talk to any arab shopkeeper in Old Jerusalem, and they want no part of an independent state run by a bunch of thugs. If Hamas and Fatah want to kill each other, then they have our blessings. However, another radical group will just fill in where the other two left off. There is no chance for any kind of peace as long as the Palestinians themselves don't stand up and say "enough" to the radical groups.
"I don't want to hear anything more on this tired, idiotic subject."
Perhaps you're asking for permission to leave?
Granted.
While you're at it why not take a bathroom break and cleanse yourself thoroughly inside and out. Presumably you have the blessing of running water and don't have to fetch it in a bucket?
An enema might be helpful.
They have money for guns, bombs, and paying people to blow themselves up.
This is rule by fear and terror.
Most of the regular people probably just want to live and provide for thier family.
But with worthless leaders that only know rule by violence, I do not see things changing over there.
If they are paying people to blow themselves up, how are those paid going to spend their $$? I think it has more to do with brainwashing the not-so-intelligeent into thinking they are doing the "right " thing. No way the guys with the power are gonna let themselves die before gaining their "prize". So they talk some weak minded soul into doing it for them. So even if "they kill each other off", the guy/s in charge will still live to talk someone else into another suicide.
sirat,
But there seems to be plenty of money for guns, bombs, training camps, teachers who teach 6-year-olds how to aim and shoot....
Don't even START this bleeding-heart BULLsh*t. They've had 60 years to work with their neighbors, the U.N., Europe and the U.S. on peace measures, foreign aid, the establishment of technology, business practices and human rights, and they've BLOWN it all. They have PLENTY of money - it's called oil revenues - but they've WASTED it on petty fighting and their "leaders" hording it for themselves.
Why can countries like Germany and Japan emerge from terrible, devastaing wars and in 40 short years become world leaders? Meanwhile, the skanky Middle East, who have all the wealth in the world via oil, can't seem to drag themselves out of the 18th century?
saintetienne
Meanwhile, the skanky Middle East, who have all the wealth in the world via oil, can't seem to drag themselves out of the 18th century?
Yeah, they can't move an inch as long as Israel is out there occupying and grabbing their lands. Try dismantling Israel, and stopping unqualified support to Israel will bring peace there.
The sheer stupidity of the Palestinians is that they could have had another Palestinian state a long time ago if it weren't for their "elected officials" who had a much different agenda than the welfare of the people. Israel offered back in 1948 to recognize the UN partition. When the arabs refused and attacked, that plan was lost. Arafat was offered 95% of his demands and turned it down because it wasn't 100%. Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza and gave the Palestinian Authority control over the area, and Israel received suicide bombers and rockets in return. The Arab's 3 no's -no peace, no recognition of Israel and no Israeli state on Palestinian territory has been the cause of the problem since 1948. The Palestinians would like to portray themselves as victims to the world. There are no victims, only volunteers. They volunteer to give their dreams away to Hamas and the rest of the Jihadist groups.
Olmert told his cabinet Israel should "be prepared for a long confrontation" and that he would not necessarily agree to halt fire if Hamas agreed to a truce deal under negotiation with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah group
Israel is intervening in the mounting factional strife in Gaza between Fatah and Hamas, with the explicit aim of eliminating Hamas as a military and political force.
ISRAEL has allowed Fatah to bring about 500 troops into the Gaza Strip under a US-co-ordinated scheme to counter Hamas, the Islamic movement that won Palestinian parliamentary elections last year.
The forces belong to the Palestinian Authority President, Mahmoud Abbas, the moderate Fatah leader whom the Bush Administration and Israel have sought to strengthen militarily and politically.
THE US Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, has said the formation of a Palestinian unity government that includes the militant group Hamas complicates her peace mission to the Middle East.
Imagine a terrorist group like Hamas complicating the peace process.
But the US should not interfer - let the terrorist run the country but give them no aid at all and if they step out of line by harming the US or threaten a friendly country that might be located next to them, then we clear out the people and families that want to live in peace and do not want to bear arms or blow themselves up and wipe out those who are left.
And let true peace loving people get on with thier lives.
The quicker we can get rid of ruthless, wicked, terror minded leaders in this world the better off we would be.
Zembel, and your point? Hamas refuses to recognize Israel's existance and wants to keep the fire under the kettle going. What do you expect Israel to do. This is nothing more than a continuation of the same insanity that has existed for the last 60 years due to the arab hatred. There could have been another Palestinian state years ago if hatred didn't stand in the way. THis isn't a territorial issue and it has never been one. It's a religious issue. The arabs don't care about the Palestinians and never did. What they care about is that there isn't a Moslem nation filling all of Palestine. You never hear a single Moslem complaining that 2/3 of Palestine was used to create the country of Jordan in 1922, and you never will. Jordan is Moslem and the fact that the Palestinians lost 2/3 of their land to Jordan has never been part of any discussion. Israel isn't Moslem and there lies the crux of the problem.
Edmar14
Israel isn't Moslem and there lies the crux of the problem.
Yes,they are Jews who were converted to Judaism, and they were Europeans, Russians, Americans and some other nationals and they are secularists who do not belong in the Middle East, the country called Israel has been forcibly planted in the land of the Palestinian people. The Israelis should be thankful to Hitler even though he killed millions of Jews, Russians, Chinese and Germans, Israelis were the only people who were rewarded with Palestinian land which is called Israel now. Now the Israelis are playing the role of Hitler killing Palestinians and destroying their country, while the world (America and the West) stand by and salute Israel like the Nazis saluted Hitler.
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