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Posted By Fabienne 1 year, 4 months ago in NewsFrom the article: "German Chancellor Angela Merkel is in last-ditch efforts to secure climate change goals at a G8 summit marred by a row over US missile defence plans. The US has already said it and several other countries at the summit of top industrial states oppose her target. At the same time, US plans to build a missile shield in two former Soviet satellites have sparked an intense war of words between Moscow and Washington."
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MilesAway1 year, 4 months ago
OK folks, just forget Global Warming, Al Gore, Neo - Conservative, Liberals for time being.
How about stopping pollution of air we breathe and water we drink, vegetables we grow and animals we breed or animals in the WILD?
If anyone still have denial about POLLUTING OUR PLANET and need scientific proof, just that is proof that HIS/HER brain is destroyed by breathing polluted air, drinking polluted water, eating polluted vegetables and meat... My wife, an famous Chinese artist, when she had art show at Chinese National Arts Museum (1999) about "MAN & NATURE" (or Chinese Green Revolution) made this statement:
"...It is unreasonable to take forcible action in order to conquer own village..." and she is not communist, not Neo-Con and nor Liberal eather...
(Oh, all paintings about "Man & Nature" is posted on our website).
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UBCONFUSE1 year, 4 months ago
Miles, you are miles away. "eating polluted vegetables", I assume you are talking about the recent lettuce recall or GM plants.
Do you really worry about being poisoned in the grocery store? Give me a break, America has the safest food system on the planet. Americans are eating too much, but we are eating better foods and what we eat must be good, as we are living longer.
Poor people in America are not standing in line at the landfill ready to dig up their next meal, in South America, Africa and other places, the landfill is the grocery store.
Where are your facts coming from for these broad statements. Either you believe what you read in the left wing press or you just woke from a time warp of 200 years ago.
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swasdiva1 year, 4 months ago
Really off topic, but...the problem with American food is how heavily it's processed. It's the artificially modified ingredients - hydrolyzed stuff, hydrogenated crap, the dreaded high fructose corn syrup - that is making America fat, unhealthy and filling our colons with buckets of toxic orange glop. Certain pesticides and meat growth hormones have been shown to influence physical development in kids and teens. I see your point, considering what other countries endure, but our food has its own dangers. Anyhoo, just sayin'.
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gamahuche1 year, 4 months ago
Guess there's only one thing worse than a neo-con and that's a RELATIVELY intelligent one.
Pity that when the milk of human kindness was being distributed you were kept on short rations.
Someone like you invented the phrase "collateral damage" to describe the destruction of innocent human beings.
I wonder what language you use to describe the World Trade Centre attack?
In YOUR style of terminology I'm sure you can dismiss it as some boring ugly buildings that housed lots of boring grey people. Oh and in NYC - probably most of them were foreigners and queers, right?
You sound like a classic exemplar of the Ugly American.Unfortunately there are more of you than the planet can sustain.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
Actually the people in the WTC were from something like 90 countries and were quietly going about their business, most likely in world trade, and most probably just having a cup of coffee, and not bothering anybody when some moronic people from the 12th century, trained by Saddam, flew planes into the WTC....
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puffin1 year, 4 months ago
http://www.aneki.com/polluted.html
Not sure how much I believe that link though, Lol.
16 of the top 20 most polluted cities are supposedly in China.
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MilesAway1 year, 4 months ago
My God, "zman", you are very on the "kisser".
Any time, some of us come with good idea or suggestion, another jerks just start to "show they stupid force" and contradict everything any one POST on any thread, if post is not according to their "believe".
Global Warming and Global Cooling happened so many times. There was not man made Global Warming nor Cooling either.
Every 200 (about) years, Sun has own "cleaning" and it affect our Solar System, Earth too. What really scare me is that many, I say MANY of (so called) "scholars" use they academic position to brain wash people...
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bill29361 year, 4 months ago
Miles,
I am not sure what you are getting at, but if you can read this article and view the slide, you will see that the EU has a problem meeting their goals in terms of Kyoto reductions. Now maybe this is why the others at the EU conference would rather talk about missile defense, or anything else so they can avoid talking about how they have failed to meet their goals while at the same time tried to shame the US into accepting their failed plan.
http://blog.nam.org/archives/2007/02/kyoto.php
http://blog.nam.org/COP11PresentationSlide1.ppt
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
bill2936 says:
Any thoughts that the others want to talk about missle defense because they are not meeting and not intending to meet their Kyoto Accord numbers?
Well we are meeting our goals by a good amount. Europe is not. Russia is not. China is not. India is not. And yett hey alllwant to put mandatory cuts onto use as well as carbon credit limits while they do not have to do it themselves....
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Starbuck1 year, 4 months ago
It's time to start doing what we can to: a) dissolve the power that the govt. has to make decisions of real importance. These people do not, and never have, worked in the interest of the common good.
b) Change our world regardless of the rhetoric, lies, and distractions offered by the (so called) ruling class.
C'mon people, it's painfully obvious by now what Bu$h-co and the other "leaders" are up to. Wake up.
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NelsonR1 year, 4 months ago
Kyoto would not have assisted anything since China and other developing countries would have had a free hand while restricting developed countries. No treaty is better than a biased treaty. Eventually maybe all our so called leaders will have enough brains to conclude an agreement that benefits the world, not just some nations while the global environment suffers.
The Cuban analogy with missles applies to this argument but lets face it folks, Bush is the enabler of world discord.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
And Nelson is the enabler of mass stupidity around the world
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RussianOtaku1 year, 4 months ago
I see a lot of complaints, but little in way of solutions offered. Its is a fact that most of the developed countries are reducing their emissions. It is most likely that they are not doing it at a level that will have a significant enough impact on the environment. However untill there is a change in public consciousness that removes the highly competetive capitalist system out of world economics, there is little chance that humanitarian/enviromental concerns will superceed the place of profits. BP just invested $8 billion into R&D firm researching alternative enrgy sources. In order to generate that $8 billion BP had to sell how many barrels of non-replenishable oil?
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saintetienne1 year, 4 months ago
Russian,
Well, that's how the world works, isn't it? Do you think BP is in the business of cleaning up the planet? NO! They're in business to sell oil. And we, the consumers, buy the oil, in the form of gasoline for our cars. So my question to YOU, Russian, is what are YOU doing to reduce emissions?
- Do you take public transportation?
- Do you carpool?
- Do you walk or ride a bike to work, the store, etc?
No? Well then YOU are part of the problem. Why does everyone blame the oil companies and the government, when they're just giving us, the people, what we want?
If we the consumers would stop buying gas or at least drastically reduce our usage, guess what?
- Gas prices would go down
- The environment would be cleaner
- Traffic would clear
- Citizens would get much-needed exercise
- And (best of all), we would stop filtering our $$$ to the filthy, hostile Middle East. Without oil money, terror camps would cease to be funded.
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gamahuche1 year, 4 months ago
Well I'LL answer your questions.
I don't own a car and on the rare occasions that I can't POSSIBLY use public transport for a journey I rent one. A total of 7 - 10 days a year.
During the last 10 years I've been on a plane 3 times, always in connection with family crises.
Exercise - sometimes more than I bargain with.
My gf's sense of fun includes telling me that we're going on 5 mile walk which turns out to be 12 miles.
Your last point is acceptable apart from your 2-word encapsulation of the Middle East.
There are plenty of ghettoes in the USA that are also filthy and hostile. In the second half of the 80's large parts of NYC were acutely dangerous - and filthy, for example.
How much time and energy do you devote to helping to cleaning up your domestic problems?
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bill29361 year, 4 months ago
Most of the developed countries are reducing their emissions????
If you exclude most of Kyoto signers like the EU-15, Japan, and Canada.
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saintetienne1 year, 4 months ago
The biased Kyoto Treaty, which restricts developed nations (i.e. United States) with environmental controls while allowing developing nations (i.e. China, India) a free rein, makes about as much sense as Al Gore's Carbon Footprint hooey, where you're allowed to "buy" your way out of polluting the planet.
In the end, the planet still gets polluted, it's just China and India doing it and not the U.S., and in the case of Gore's Carbon Footprint "idea", it's fat, wealthy Dum-o-crats and their homes and private jets that pollute, while they pay us peons not to.
The United States is totally correct in NOT signing anything that doesn't make it equal for all across the board. Even Al Bore.
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Macondo1 year, 4 months ago
Is Mr Bush going to surprise German Chancellor Angela Merkel, with an unsolicited back rub as he did in an other international meeting sometime ago ?
Is this the only level of international diplomacy he masters ?
Announcing he will not sign a proposal before the proposal is officially presented is not only stupid but arrogant and a spit in the face of other members of the G8.
Now he wants to gang up with the other polluters.(China and India.)
What kind of message is he sending to the rest of the world.
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scott42611 year, 4 months ago
It's funny. Even conservatives in other countries (and yes, Merkel is considered a conservative in Germany) acknowledge the reality of global warming. The conservatives in THIS COUNTRY have their heads buried DEEP, DEEP in the sand! All because the person who dares to speak out (Al Gore) is someone they so despise....
Doesn't ANYONE ELSE see the twisted logic here?
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bill29361 year, 4 months ago
Actually what is funny is how many of the signing countries of the Kyoto Accord can't seem to meet the goals they set. And in many cases have not only failed to decrease their levels to meet the goals they set, but have actually increased their levels to higher than when they actually signed the accord, that is twisted logic. Now, Canada is of the opinion that a 25% increase in there levels is necessary to prevent their economy from crashing, now that is twisted logic. And if anyone wants to talk about Al Gore, maybe you can discuss the amount of carbon he creates by flying on jet planes, or maybe we can discuss OccidentAL Oil; now that is twisted logic.
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KingOfTruth1 year, 4 months ago
scott4261:
It's funny. Even conservatives in other countries (and yes, Merkel is considered a conservative in Germany) acknowledge the reality of global warming.
Youhav it all wrong. We don't deny that some global warming is happening. It however is not manymade. It is all from the SUN...that big abll of light and solar energy that shows up in the sky everyday.....and the only twisted logic in the debate is the Al Gore Carbon Credits scam...(well the UN IPCC is also a scam)
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zman1 year, 4 months ago
Just what Iran and N Korea want to see - the US cannot even get along with our Allies. The Bush Administration has screwed up our Image in the world for decades to come. They have eschewed Diplomacy and created a much more dangerous world for us to live in. What a debacle!
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ETproductions1 year, 4 months ago
Hooray for King George. Once more, he sidesteps a chance to spoil his perfect record of mismanagement. He casts a vote for pollution and the continued destruction of life on our planet.
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