There's Good News from Iraq »
Posted by: Coop666 1 year, 3 months ago162 Comments Report this Story
Al-Qaeda said to be in retreat in Al-Anbar. Or, at least that's what the Neo-Cons at Time Magazine would have us believe!
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jeffery11 year, 3 months ago
I know that to many right-wingers this is news but it is to be expected. The Iraqi insurgency is not all that hot about working with al Qaeda and in fact if we weren't in Iraq the insurgency would more than likely eliminate al Qaeda. Read this story:
Divisions Within the Iraqi Insurgency By Lydia Khalil at the following URL (if it is displayed correctly, otherwise search for the title and author):
http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article...
The situation is more complex than most realize but it is fact that al Qaeda was not operating in Iraq until we removed the reasons why: Saddam and the Baath Party.
This is "good news" only in context of Bush's lies that got us to needlessly invade Iraq in the first place. Had we put enough troops in Afghanistan an dcompleted the job there and improved diplomatic relations throughout the region we could have achieved far more without the loss of life and money.
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tiredofnonsense1 year, 3 months ago
3/1/98 Al Queda envoy visits Baghdad from Sudan and extendes trip another week to further plan visit from Bin Laden. [Author's note: it is later alleged and well-supported that the Al Queda leader who visited Iraq was Al Queda's second in command, Dr. Ayman Al Zawahiri. It is important to note that such a high level meeting would have undoubtably involved multiple Al Queda members for security and communication, a good deal of pre-planning communications, a substantial level of trust on the part of Al Queda's #2 man, and topics of a nature so important as to require direct communication rather than couriers.]
4/25/1998 Spring 1998, Sudanese leader Hassan Al-Turabi again acts as mediator between Baghdad and Al Queda. Iraqi Intelligence leaders meet with Al Queda's Mohammed Abu-Islam and Abdullah Qassim (sometime between April 25, 1998 and Mmay 1, 1998).
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tchef1 year, 3 months ago
Also maybe if we wouldn't have written off the tribes in the first place Al Qaeda wouldn't have gotten such a foothold.
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libsRfunny1 year, 3 months ago
Leave it so a liberal to always rain on the parade. It's especially funny the person who posted this story referred to Time magazine as being run by "neo-cons." lol, what funny, funny libs.
The sunni-dominated Anbar province is working against the sunni terrorists, and the Taliban Spring offensive has wilted in Afghanistan. Yes, good news beyond a shadow of a doubt.
And the defeatists Dems finally have seen fit to fund our troops instead of pretending we have lost a war we are winning handily. This will be a Memorial Day Holiday especially worth celabrating - unless you are a defeatist Democrat, anyway.
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truthiness1 year, 3 months ago
well this is good news /bad news
good news- alqueda is getting pushed out by the sunnis
bad news- they are moving in larger numbers to baghdad (see increase in attack size in baghdad last few days).
-the sunnis are getting better organized as a groupd which could bode poorly for the civil war which is not showing signs of letting up (recently, several shiite tribes banded together with an AQI to form "the state of iraq" a seperatist govt complete with department heads including a war dept)
- the US is showing no signs of having control over this movement, therby continuing to look weak to our enemies as far as our ability to dominate the war.
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truthiness1 year, 3 months ago
"keep in mind that an attack can be as little as one round fired)"
if thats the case then philadelphia has a major insurgency going on. there was over 400 murders by gunfire last year. we're on track for 500 this year. there are gunfights in the street btwn teenagers in certain neighborhoods every weekend. usu. over thing like "you looked at my woman" but nonetheless a lot more than one bullet fired. and they have a campiagn going on of "no snitcing" which is essentially a political movement to scare people not to talk to the cops, and it works few murders are ever solved since it began.
so you have gunfights and and govt activity. sounds like it fits that definition.
or maybe there's a more specific defnition they're really using. sorry Luv, but I cant handle any more spin on this war. it was started on lies. it was bad strategy to open a second front. and Iraq was no threat. its just plain immoral.
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MajJohn1 year, 3 months ago
Now just stop it! We don't need good news mucking things up and destroying our agenda!
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abntv1 year, 3 months ago
I agree this is good news..lets see how much coverage it gets in the "mainstream" media...
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ETproductions1 year, 3 months ago
Iraq is indeed a complex picture. What's happening in AL Anbar right now deflates Bush's new argument that we have to "Fight them there so we don't have to fight them here." There are 3 problems with that piece of illogic.
1 -- They weren't there till Bush let Bin Laden slip through the Tora Bora pass into safe haven and instead of winning Afghanastan (something we desperately needed to do, invaded Iraq instead (something we desperately needed NOT to do).
2 -- As he said, they HAVE been planning attacks on American soil and American interests elsewhere. So obviously, Bush's "fight them there" strategy has backfired.
3 -- The ones who are effectively fighting them there are Iraqis, not Americans. They know who belongs there and who doesn't. We don't.
General Petraeus is smart enough to see that Iraq is mostly a Civil war and that we must bring the Sunnis and Shiites into cooperation to end it. Sadly, Bush and Al Maliki aren't.
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ETproductions1 year, 3 months ago
In his speech, Bush stated that their plans were to strike here. In fact, one plan was to attack one of the service academies. As far as "fighting them here" we never have been doing that. What we're trying to do is stop suicide attacks. Trere never has been any Muslim invasion force massing on our borders.
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tiredofnonsense1 year, 3 months ago
I guess you didn't hear about the 20 Hamas trained people who tried to be smuggled across the border from mexico. Mexico is pushing to stop any terrorist as it makes the call for sealing the boarder more urgent.
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hamy1 year, 3 months ago
But it is ridiculous. Terrorism isn't new. Bush didn't invent it. It has been around forever. If you think that we will not be attacked again, you are silly. These ideas are completely backwards. Fighting terrorists in Iraq is not what we are doing. We are fighting the Iraqi people who want us out of their country.
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ETproductions1 year, 3 months ago
It was WELL established. The Bush disinformation machine has been running full steam to deny it. But lies are lies, and regular liars aren't exactly reliable sources.
When you want to sort out the truth of a thing, look to those who were actually there and have no vested interest in obscuring the truth.
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truthiness1 year, 3 months ago
s it true what I heard about the Son of God?
Did he come to save? Did he come at all?
And if I dried his feet,
with my dirty hair,
would he make me clean again?
They say they don't know when but a day is gonna come,
when there won't be a moon and there won't be a sun.
It will just go black, It'll all go back, to the way it was before.
I knew a lovely girl, with such pretty pride, and every man wanted her, yeah and so did I.
So did I.
But she up and died in a fit of vanity.
Now men with purple hearts, carry silver guns.
And they will kill a man for what his father has done.
But what my father did, you know it don't mean ******. I'm not him.
So you think I need some discipline, well, I had my share.
I have been sent to my room. I've been sat in a chair.
And I held my tongue. I didn't plug my ears.
No, I got a good talking to.
And now I don't know why,
but I still try to smile when they talk at me like I'm just a child.
Well, I'm not a child.
....cont...
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truthiness1 year, 3 months ago
No, I am much younger than that.
And now I have read some books and have grown quite brave.
If I could just speak up I think I would say that there is no truth.
There is only you and what you make the truth.
So I will just sing my song and I'll pass a hat.
Then I'll leave your town and never look back.
No, I don't look back because the road is clear and laid out ahead of me.
I'll get home and meet my friends at our favorite bar.
We'll get some lighter heads for our heavy hearts.
And we will share a drink.
Yeah we will share our fears and they will know how I love them.
They will know how I love.
They will know how I love them.
I am nothing without their love.
I don't know when but a day is gonna come
when there won't be a moon and there won't be a sun.
It will all go black.
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truthiness1 year, 3 months ago
It will all go back to the way it is supposed to be.
Is it true what I heard about the Son of God?
Did he die for us? Did he die at all?
And if I sold my soul for a bag of gold,
which one of us would be the foolish one?
Which one of us would be the fool?
Could you please start explaining?
You know, I need some understanding.
-Dont Know When But A Day Is Going To Come
-Bright Eyes
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spkguy1 year, 3 months ago
U.S. April death toll in Iraq passes 100
BAGHDAD (AP) รข;; A suicide bomber struck a crowd of funeral mourners Monday north of Baghdad, taking more than 30 lives at the end of one of the deadliest months of the war so far for U.S. forces. At least 104 American troops were reported killed in April.
The rising toll among Americans pointed to a potentially deadly trend: More troops exposed to more dangers as they try to reclaim control of Baghdad under the joint security plan being implemented by U.S. and Iraqi forces.
Bombings and shootings nationwide Monday killed at least 102 people, counting the funeral attack.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-04...
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Silverghost1 year, 3 months ago
Coop & Luv: Neo-cons at Time? And CBS weighs in on this too? What's this world coming to? LOL :) -Rev. S
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Obaku1 year, 3 months ago
Seriously though, it is good news. Less Al Qaeda means less justification for staying, just to referee the Sunni/Shi'ite conflict.
The bad news is that Al Qaeda won't go away, they will just relocate to new targets of opportunity - like Houston, or L.A.
Oops, I'll bet Dickless Cheney never thought of that!
The true model for dealing with Al Qaeda effectively is not war, but the WHO campaigns to eradicate smallpox and polio.
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RedRiverJ1 year, 3 months ago
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki isn't strong enough or fair enough. Seems to favor the Shi'ite's, not the sunni. I would think just like in our country elected officials should represent both parties, IE republicans and democrats. And we all KNOW our politicians are biapartisian in the USA don't we voters?
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