NASA building evacuated due to reports of shots fired »
Posted by: coreyspring 1 year, 4 months agoThere's a developing story out of Clear Lake, where part of Johnson Space Center has been evacuated amid reports of gunfire. According to ABC News reports, a SWAT team has rushed the building, but has not yet emerged with the suspect.
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coreyspring1 year, 4 months ago
More info from the Houston Chronicle:
http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4734389.html
Suspect is a white male in his 50's who has barricaded himself on the second floor, according to KTRK
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coreyspring1 year, 4 months ago
Johnson Space Center says they currently have two employees unaccounted for.
Station KPRC says they've confirmed that the gunman is a contract worker at JSC employed by Jacobs Engineering Group. CNN has aired unsubstantiated reports that this was a person who was recently or soon to be fired, entered a meeting room, fired several shots and ordered everyone but one person to leave the room. Again, that can't be confirmed as of yet.
There will be a press conference shortly.
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lfergie8121 year, 4 months ago
Good story corey, still waiting for the outcome but I do wish they wouldn't televise these stories so much. Just give an update every so often but stop the continuous coverage.
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saneman1 year, 4 months ago
Except all the shootings are happening in the Redneck states. Here's a true story told to me about a couple traveling through Virginia. They stopped at a small town cafe and the waitress told them that since they weren't from around there, they should quickly eat their food and get out of town as quickly as possible.
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abraham18611 year, 4 months ago
what next..the media will probably make this guy as big as John Wayne...
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icanread1 year, 4 months ago
Ban Guns! They are inflicting violence! Oh my goodness, get the liberals out and demand to ban guns! Why are people afraid of something so small as a "hand gun"? Assault weapons look scary (spice)
Vote Democrat! :)
Kiesha
New Town, Sarasota, Florida
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buggzmum1 year, 4 months ago
Yeah, lets ban guns when every liberal out there offers to be bodyguards for us civilians. 'Cuz, you can bet your sweet *** that CRIMINALS WILL ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO GUNS!!!!! Man, I am so SICK and TIRED of that stupid attitude.
Recently in my state, a woman living in a rural home woke up to an intruder standing over her in her home. She was so shocked she slapped him in the face and then chased his arse out the door grabbing her shotgun with her and threatening him with it. Actually chased him down through a field. She was damn glad she had a gun on her.
By the way, guns don't inflict violence. It's the idiot holding the gun that inflicts violence. A gun sitting idle does absolutely, you got it, NOTHING!!!
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pacificmist1 year, 4 months ago
You are right guns don't inflict violence violent people inflict violence guns are just the tool they use. I never knew a gun that could go on a shooting rampage all by it's self. Some people will never be able to place the blame where it belongs they will always have to blame the tools used. Do you think they would scream so loud if it had been a bomb.
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pc251 year, 4 months ago
a rebuttal to the ban guns crowd
http://www.gunsandcrime.org/deternce.html
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/4936...
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abraham18611 year, 4 months ago
I'm glad the guy shot himself...saves the taxpayers some money..
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pacificmist1 year, 4 months ago
What the hell is happening to people and I hope it isn't catching. because I don't want any of it. And lay off Bush we re elected him so live with it.
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ryan6011 year, 4 months ago
"What the hell is happening to people and I hope it isn't catching"
I concur with your sentiment, but don't kid yourself. It's not just the crazies who go around shooting people. This kind of incident, as horrifying as it is, is actually very rare.
Gun violence, however, is not rare. It happens every day. And you people need to start waking up to the fact that its the guns that are the problem.
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el-jefe1 year, 4 months ago
Well, let's look at Britain, which in the last 15 years has replaced a number of fairly restrictive gun laws with a de facto ban on gun ownership.
Oh, that's right, violent crime and homicide has gone through the roof over there since they banned guns.
Helpful hint: Study after study after study has shown that the availability of guns has an effect on GUN crime. It has a very small effect on overall crime or on violent crime.
Guns were not widely available in Rwanda...that didn't stop hundreds of thousands from being killed.
Guns are no less prevalent and available in Switzerland than they are in Iraq. Why don't the two countries have the same homicide rate?
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PsychoHosebeast1 year, 4 months ago
This an excellent case of the media blowing something out of proportion. People kill people every day. People kill themselves every day. No one says squat... then the TV channels get hold of something and it's off to the races.
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jordan111 year, 4 months ago
And lay off Bush we re elected him so live with it.>>>>>
And you don't even have the sense to be embarrassed to admit it! mmm mmm mmm. He's a MORON. I guess what I'm saying is, I won't be laying off little george. I'll call him on his idiocy, & there's not a damn thing 'you' can do about it.
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wtagg1 year, 4 months ago
You might want to reflect upon what you have provided as evidence.
Gore went to Harvard. Bush went to Yale. Maybe you got confused with Kerry.
Gore's SAT's were about 10% higher than Bush's.
Gore and Bush received apprroximately the same grades in their undergraduate studies. Both in the C range, though it may be difficult to compare because of the Harvard and Yale's different way of grading. Neither one represents the cream rising to the top. I would suggest that it does represent the privileged can seemingly obtain more with less.
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pacificmist1 year, 4 months ago
There is noway I'm Embarrassed. I'd like to see you run this country. Ever notice when the system works everybody bit_hs about it and when it doesn't work the same people Bit_h about it. You were part of the voteing public and your side lost so deal with it better luck next time.
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agentX1 year, 4 months ago
Oh lord have mercy! Not another shootout! Now it's NASA.
This ****** has got to stop. If you don't like school, QUIT AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. If you don't like your job, QUIT AND GET A BETTER ONE!
If you lose your job, it's not the end of the world. Shooting your boss is not the solution, even if he deserved it.
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el-jefe1 year, 4 months ago
People who shoot their way out of a bad job (or poor job performance) generally don't see getting another job as an option.
Let's not forget this guy was 60 years old and a loner, and that the performance appraisal that triggered this incident rated him an "average" peformer.
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truthiness1 year, 4 months ago
in philadelphia, where I live, we are on track for 500 murders. last year we hit 490. they tried to tell us it wasnt that bad b/c we hit this high ten years ago. one statistic they left out...ten years ago the majority of those killings werent done by minors to minors.
about two months ago two teenagers got into a gunfight outside a movietheater opening over a minor argument.
about five months ago I was in abar with the chief of homicide for philadelphia, I asked him if he though the drug war was accelerating the problem the way prohibition did, he replied "that may be a part of it, but usually these kids are shooting each other over things like you looked at my girl wrong..."
we somehow have become a society plagued by sociopaths. how did this happen? why are we not having this discussion publicly? one school shooting, one workplace shooting, is a freak occurance by a madman, but a continual cycle increasing exponentially since the 90s is a comment on our culture.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 4 months ago
Could it be TV,in 1992 when the Gulf war was on our 6:00 news was all about air strikes,smart bombs,cruise missles and even showed there targets exploding.My 5 yr. old son couldn't distinguish between what was on TV and his nintendo:he thought both were a game so I got rid of both.The only thing I miss realy is Hockey Night.As J.Stalin said 'one death is a tragedy,a million a statistic" we have become numb and desensitized to horror,it is almost part of the norm now thanks mainly to the media.what is needed is more stories on humanities positive side.And if some dickfor corrects my spelling or sentence structure he/she is part of the problem
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LordOfChaos1 year, 4 months ago
Read some rap and hip-hop lyrics. You may be shocked. Kids have their iPods on, this crap pouring into their ears constantly.
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el-jefe1 year, 4 months ago
They reviewed their security after the Virginia Tech shootings, and decided that no significant changes were in order.
Security at JSC is quite proactive. There's just not much more they can do than they already are. Remember, they have to pass 10,000 people through the gates every day, they couldn't afford enough security guards to search everyone and their car every day. And even if they could, it would take hours to pass everyone through...after which time it would be time for everyone to go home again, without doing any useful work.
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moot511 year, 4 months ago
Maybe we need to quit blaming gun laws, Bush, liberals and everything else and look at the state of "The Family" in our country. Lets face it, our kids are growing up in a society where if you try to impose punishment for doing wrong all they have to do is say they are being treated mean and the parents go to jail. We have lost control of instilling values in our children. If kids aren't raised with a certain amount of knowing what is right and what is wrong, then as adults they aren't going to do any better. As it stands now, the schools preach to kids daily that if they don't want to do something the parents have told them to all they have to do is cry abuse. Come on,,,get real,,,there are deeper causes of incidents like this that will cause the ruin of life as we knew it.
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el-jefe1 year, 4 months ago
Try to recall that the shooter in this one was 60 years old. His formative years were, oh, 1950-1965. I'm pretty sure the state of the family back then was a lot closer to what you're asking for than it is now.
Let's also remember that this guy lived for 60 years without getting into the kind of trouble that would have gotten him fired for being a security risk.
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el-jefe1 year, 4 months ago
Out of over 10,000 people at JSC, we've had one astronaut and one contractor go off their nut this year.
And the last time something like that happened was...oh, never in the 40 years JSC has been open.
Taken as a whole, the workforce at JSC is much saner than the general population. Trust me, I work there, and in 2003 I served on a grand jury in Harris County, Texas (the county where JSC is located). The JSC workforce is MUCH saner than the general population!
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el-jefe1 year, 4 months ago
Ok, what would you do differently? JSC is 10,000 people working in over 50 different buildings. All the buildings that house anything vital to the space program are locked and accessable only to people with a badge with an RFID tag. The ones that are REALLY important, like Mission Control, have armed guards posted. Just to get inside the fence at JSC, you have to show your employee ID badge to a guard. And you can't just wave it at him while he waves you through, you have to stop, he has to inspect your badge (and you, to make sure you're not a terrorist with a stolen badge) and physically touch the badge before you can go in. There are also random vehicle searches, and random bag searches in sensitive areas.
Building 44, where this happened, is not one of those areas. It's just an office building with a couple of attached labs with some expensive test gear in them. It's not vital...which is why it wasn't guarded.
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el-jefe1 year, 4 months ago
Space program defunct? I suppose that depends on your definition of defunct. Suni Williams, the astronaut who is circling the earth on the Space Station as I type these words, might disagree.
The space shuttle was designed in the 1970s with 1970s technology, not 1960s. It's a significant improvement in technology over the rockets that were used in the 1960s. The avionics were also completely redesigned in the 1990s, and was state of the art at that time (glass cockpit, if you know enough about these sort of things to know what that means).
The entire NASA annual budget is around $16 billion a year, so your comment about Iraq is certainly plausible. Last I checked, we were "only" spending about $300 billion a year in Iraq, so let's make it fair and say we're spending the entire NASA annual budget every 2 months in Iraq.
And Kim Nowak became pathological as an astronaut...she could have never gotten in if she was nuts when she was hired.
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el-jefe1 year, 4 months ago
The Chinese have no interest in building a shuttle, and don't have the prowess to do it. Their space program is about where the Soviet Union was in the early 1970s...which is much more advanced than you might think. Still not capable of building a shuttle, though.
Remember, we went to the moon in the 1960s...the Chinese are considering doing the same thing.
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mom4rtroops1 year, 4 months ago
Heck I have a gun! and have had to use it! One to scare off my ex who liked to hit, kick and beat the living snot out of me. Two to chase off a bear while camping who was coming into our property after vandals trashed our cabin and left food out for the bears to smell. If I caould catch the vandals I would love to use the gun for the 3rd time to force them into the cabin and make them stay there with food all around so the bear can come back again and let them get a feel of what they put us through!
Our guns stay in a safe! WE don't use them to commit crimes! My husband and I both served our country and have them to keep us safe. These people do these shootings to get attention and when a event is spread all over the news, TV, magazines, everywhere you look it just leads to others saying "Hey look at ME" I can do it too"
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el-jefe1 year, 4 months ago
What do you consider secured? Nutters walk up Pennsylvania Avenue and shoot up the White House from time to time...moments before they are tackled or shot by Secret Service agents. You wouldn't say the White House isn't secured, would you?
The fact is that JSC is probably every bit as well secured as it needs to be, and almost certainly security will be racheted up a notch or two after this incident. From my perspective as someone who works there, any "extra" security would provide more inconvenience than real safety.
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B1BLancer1 year, 4 months ago
Man, this has NOT been a good year for NASA. First Lisa Nowak, then Atlantis being bombarded on the launch pad by hail, and now this!
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sithlordO21 year, 4 months ago
Expect more of these types of shootings in the workplace and schools. "Let's arm everyone!!".....ya right.
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Egodeus1 year, 4 months ago
Well lets make all guns illegal, the only people having them would be the criminals, hmm doesn't work, instead lets let everyone in the country have a gun, carnage still ensues since the criminals would still have them. Well lets try making it a lot harder for someone to legally have a gun, yet again the criminals will continue to have them. It seems to me the only way to solve the gun problem isn't by changing the guns but by changing the people. The question is how to do that and currently i don't think anyone has an answer.
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