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  Worldview1 year, 5 months ago

  NBC Nightly News will show portions of video sent from Cho

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    Worldview1 year, 5 months ago

    "NBC said that a time stamp on the package indicated the material was mailed in the two-hour window between the first burst of gunfire in a high-rise dormitory and the second fusillade, at a classroom building. Thirty-three people died in the rampage, including the gunman, 23-year-old student Cho Seung-Hui, who committed suicide."

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      Worldview1 year, 5 months ago

      a photo of Cho, with guns in hand, has been posted on the Washington Post's web site.

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/

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        capn_caveman1 year, 5 months ago

        NBC just put up more photos. The return address on the package indicates that the sender was "A. Ishmael".

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        Worldview1 year, 5 months ago

        Is it possible that some people are just plain evil.

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          Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

          I would almost like to believe that exact thing, simply to make it easier to understand how some people are capable of such acts...

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          ghengisghan1 year, 5 months ago

          Having witnessed some horrible things, I believe theyre is evil.

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          contrast1 year, 5 months ago

          in a society where almost no one is responsible for what they do and we make up all kinds of excuses? not any more. I am in that minority that believes some humans arent really humans that they are monsters. I grew up in an inner city. Monsters are real Cho was a monster.

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            spiralthrough1 year, 5 months ago

            There's a difference between an excuse and a cause, or an influencing factor...Someone who commits crimes like these (and gets caught) is going to be punished to the fullest extenet of the law because of the sheer devastation they caused to the victims and the families, regardless of what explanations we come up with to explain it, no matter how true or untrue they are. Also, people can be very, very horrible but that doesn't mean they aren't human. It makes it easier to deal with our emotions and the consequences of these awful atrocities to dehumanize them in whatever way and to believe we could never be capable of the same thing. And if you need to believe what you stated above to cope, then so be it. I won't debate that.

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              spiralthrough1 year, 5 months ago

              extent*

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              Azahn1 year, 5 months ago

              I disagree with the assertion that they will be punished to the fullest extent of the law. many of them have a death-wish. Thus, they are generally shot down or commit suicide. This completely nullifies the opportunity for prosecution. Once they are buried, then we need to bury them in the news as well... no more coverage... no more analysis... they (as human beings) have decided to define themselves by the action(s) that they took (to become famous in death) and, therefore, aren't worth the paper that the analysis is written on.

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                spiralthrough1 year, 5 months ago

                'I disagree with the assertion that they will be punished to the fullest extent of the law. many of them have a death-wish.'

                which is why I said: 'Someone who commits crimes like these (and gets caught)(...)'

                'Once they are buried, then we need to bury them in the news as well... no more coverage... no more analysis... they (as human beings) have decided to define themselves by the action(s) that they took (to become famous in death) and, therefore, aren't worth the paper that the analysis is written on.'

                I wish people would quit saying 'fame' and 'famous' when referring to this guy. It's 'infamy' and 'infamous' and there's a huge difference.

                You kinda missed the forest for the trees here. The point of what I wrote is in reponse to people, in this case Contrast, who equate 'reasons' and 'causes' with 'excuses'. We still hold him in ill-regard and will still punish the ones we catch, despite what explanations we can come up with as to why he did it.

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                  spiralthrough1 year, 5 months ago

                  What he did is evil, regardless of why. But by informing ourselves and the public, we can figure out ways of protecting ourselves and preventing our society from creating these murderous exceptions.

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                johnkamis641 year, 5 months ago

                There's a name for that: Suicide by cop.

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          Azahn1 year, 5 months ago

          The answer is very simple----->YES. Although it is uncertain what leads them to this, I do not really care what their reasons are; because they are obviously not interested in the welfare of others. There is a selfish reason for evil behavior. Ultimately we can only judge the actions/behavior of others, trying to intricately investigate there motives in the public eye, as the media persists in doing is a complete waste of time. It ONLY serves to glorify (through increased public exposure) the actions of the evil person, thereby inviting more of the same behavior from observers who are of a similar mindset. I don't mean that the media intentionally "glorifies" the evil person, so much as similarly minded people percieve the coverage and in depth analysis as glorification and validation. The best coverage of this type of event is minimal coverage. I advocate a single line on the next-to-last page of the newspaper, so that, we do not get more of these types of incidents.

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          Azahn1 year, 5 months ago

          These persons (at the very least) want to be famous, even after death, which is evidenced by the fact that he sent a video tape to NBC. Unfortunately, due to the way the media reports the news and makes judgements as to what is news-worthy, there will be more of these types of incidents, until the news media decides to shut-off the outlet of their evil fame-seeking desires and deny them any coverage at all. There is a small part of me that wonders if the media is reporting on this partly out of its own selfish motivations, because I would wager that they already know that extensive news coverage of these types of events will lead to more of the same types of events, which they hope will lead to more political pressure for gun control. They have conveniently left out, or forgotten, that VT was a gun-free-zone, denying its students the right to carry firearms for self defence. An armed citizen could certainly have helped in a situation like this. I say: DENY HIM COVERAGE.

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            Coatl1 year, 5 months ago

            While what you say it's true, it's also our fault, because we ( the people in general ) allways want to know every detail of events like this. If we wouldn't want to see those videos and images ( and overall if we wouldn't watch them ), the media wouldn't broadcast them. We need to stop buying and consuming everything that comes from the media.

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      IncaQueen1 year, 5 months ago

      Well, why not. Let's post his stuff all over the news. Make him famous like Bonnie and Clyde? There will be a book deal and movie! It will inspire others to do the same. Columbine wasn't big enough? Maybe they will build a momument to his like they did the OKC bombers?

      I'm surprised some Islamic Terrorist group hasn't claimed repsonsbility. Now they are saying someone named A. Ishmael sent the photos in? Some people are just plain evil, and best serve the world I think being flower food not smelling the flowers. This is just another sicko, Islamic or not.

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      funcouple1 year, 5 months ago

      this is a terrible thing that had happened and i give all my condolenses to all the families that has lost a loved one.

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    angelfal21 year, 5 months ago

    This guy disgusts me. Truly.

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      beachboy60001 year, 5 months ago

      I agree. This guy was a lunatic.

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        PopEye521 year, 5 months ago

        MAYBE SO. BUT THATS MOST LIKELY THE REASON HE FINALLY SNAPPED. PEOPLE CAN'T KEEP COMMENTS TO THEMSELVES. AND I WILL BET IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN. FINAL NOTE- THERE IS NO WAY TO STOP A PERSON WHO IS WILLING TO GIVE HIS OR HER OWN LIFE FROM DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.

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          angelfal21 year, 5 months ago

          I may be taking your comment the wrong way (and please correct me if I am) but I think you may have misunderstood the previous comments.

          There is nothing about him as a person that disgusts me(i.e. the way he looks, talks, etc). Its his psycho thoughts, his disregard for human life and hateful language and attitude that was apparent on the video he submitted between killing 32 people. The reason why he did it does not excuse the act.

          I was teased too. Most people were. Thats no excuse. Some kids are cruel but does that mean they should be shot?! Because they couldnt "keep comments to themselves".

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    dandt16121 year, 5 months ago

    I wish they would not show anything he sent them because that is just what he wanted. Why should anything be done for him now. If the video and other things he sent would help prevent another shooting then they should turn it over to the right people who can use it in a positive way and not just use it for their ratings.

    NBC needs to focus on the victims.

    Peace to the victims and their families.

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      mamasan1 year, 5 months ago

      I agree dant...keep the little freaks face out of the news.

      He will rot in hell for what he did.

      He was no martry.

      He was an IDIOT!!!!!

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        johnkamis641 year, 5 months ago

        Agreed.

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    coreyspring1 year, 5 months ago

    Here is the web version of this story straight from NBC, it's being constantly updated

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/

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      capn_caveman1 year, 5 months ago

      That photo they have of him on there is pretty haunting.

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        coreyspring1 year, 5 months ago

        Just watched the NBC report on the Nightly News... the whole thing was pretty haunting. He specifically mentioned Eric and Dylan from Columbine and how he would be remembered like them, as a martyr. Much of what he said was an incoherent rant, but it was obvious that he felt very slighted by 'rich' students with better means, and that he thought of himself as sacrificing himself for the 'greater good'

        Defintely a disturbed young man... and as Brian Williams noted at the top of the newscast, we have just broadcast the words of a murderer.

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          coreyspring1 year, 5 months ago

          NBC is also broadcasting more information and details from the package tomorrow on the Today show.

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            Teech1 year, 5 months ago

            How nice for NBC. Film at 11? Perhaps they can milk this thing and make almost as much money from it this week as Halliburton and the Bush clan will make on the war in Iraq. How sad for NBC, however, that this story won't last as long as the war. Pardon me because I refuse to watch.

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              axman1 year, 5 months ago

              Thanks for staying on topic

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          ConquerorWyrm1 year, 5 months ago

          Who from Columbine?

          Sorry, I try not to memorialize the names of the cretins, much less be on first name basis with them. Why? look, every year since that shooting, there have been 'scares' at different schools across the country on the anniversary of that particular one. Why? Why not any of the others? Why that one? And do you remember the names of the others?

          I would rather forget their names, as with the others, and refer to them as 'those two losers who...'

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    eviln3d1 year, 5 months ago

    Ah yes, they will show portions only because the need to make room for the commercials that bring in the money.

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    lwjr1 year, 5 months ago

    When a fan at a sporting event runs onto the field the networks will not show their face. Why in God's name are they plastering this evil idiotic moron's face all over TV and the print media. They are catering to exactly what he wnanted.

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  thomaswb421 year, 5 months ago

  this is a shocking devlopement to hear this happen days before this happen.ed i still thing after the first shooting s the school should have benn locked down for safty percautions.

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    jumpmaster1 year, 5 months ago

    More like a city of 35,000 but your point is right on.

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  Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

  How could not a single person have seen this coming?

  They claim teachers wanted him in counseling. Several believed one day he might actually do something like this, quote, unquote.

  Why does no one ever step in and actually DO something when they have strong suspicions?

  The same thing happened to Anna Nicole. Everyone was worried about her, everyone thought she needed help, but no one steps up to be responsible until there's corpses littering the ground.

  It just amazes me...

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    Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

    It isn't a tragedy when a thought out, planned killing spree is executed. This kid knew what he was doing.

    They said that he constantly spewed violent remarks and scared people to the point that they were afraid to be around him. Had something even been done about THAT, I have a suspicion that at least SOMETHING could have been done.

    With all the 'facts' we've been given, I can say with 100% certainty that people were negligent about the situation and simply brushed it off as another useless individual in society.

    I think it's about time for people to take responsibility and open their eyes and not just rub it off like it was an accident.

    A car sliding off a road in snow is an accident. Something slipping on a wet floor is an accident.

    A crazed, mentally ill individual with two guns and a plan to massacre a school is no accident.

    Don't resort to insults, it's petty and shows you have no basis for your arguments.

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      Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

      This was said by a student who goes to VT:

      When I first heard about the multiple shootings at Virginia Tech yesterday, my first thought was about my friends, and my second thought was "I bet it was Seung Cho."

      Cho was in my playwriting class last fall, and nobody seemed to think much of him at first. He would sit by himself whenever possible, and didn't like talking to anyone. I don't think I've ever actually heard his voice before. He was just so quiet and kept to himself. Looking back, he fit the exact stereotype of what one would typically think of as a "school shooter" - a loner, obsessed with violence, and serious personal problems. Some of us in class tried to talk to him to be nice and get him out of his shell, but he refused talking to anyone. It was like he didn't want to be friends with anybody. He just came to class every day and submitted his work on time, as I understand it.

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        Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

        When we read Cho's plays, it was like something out of a nightmare. The plays had really twisted, macabre violence that used weapons I wouldn't have even thought of. Before Cho got to class that day, we students were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter. I was even thinking of scenarios of what I would do in case he did come in with a gun, I was that freaked out about him. When the students gave reviews of his play in class, we were very careful with our words in case he decided to snap. Even the professor didn't pressure him to give closing comments.

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        If that doesn't say it all, I don't know what does.

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          Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

          I wouldn't call fearing for your life by a particular individual a 'suspicion'.

          You'd better be damn sure that if I felt my life were being threatened by any one person in particular that I would not sit idly by while they put a bullet through my head.

          Would you?

          I never proposed that I had an answer. I never claimed to be 'brilliant' as you put it. I simply believe that if what people are saying about this individual is true, they should have had a much closer eye put on him, and I doubt this incident would have happened at all.

          It's hard to tell if it's the fault of the faculty or the sheer size of the school (I think they said 25,000 or so students?)

          A deep, brooding obsession with violence is not simply anti-social, I believe that constitutes mental illness and a psycho-evaluation to deserve his saneness if he was so blatently messed up.

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            Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

            Hah, "my kind" aye?

            So now I'm some type of 'retarted creature' to you?

            We have a word for that on forums. It's called trolling. Just because you disagree with my opinion doesn't mean you have to chase around my posts and flame them because you can't handle different viewpoints.

            It is not illegal nor do I believe it would have been innapropriate to initiate some sort of intervention with this kid.

            I'm extremely curious as to whether or not his parents knew he thought/felt/acted this way.

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              spiralthrough1 year, 5 months ago

              eh, why would they wiretap someone who doesn't talk...

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              ConquerorWyrm1 year, 5 months ago

              I get what you're sayin', buddy...

              It's so easy to psychoanalyze from afar and build pretend scenarios of 'what if', 'why not', or 'if I was there' and 'if it was me'...and propose preposterous solutions, mousetraps of Rube Goldberg proportions with built in blame factors for tarring and feathering those people who didn't see the unseeable...

              Problem that they omit to address in all their 'somebody' and 'someone' chatter is very simple...Who's gonna bell that cat? Also, which cat?

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            skeek1 year, 5 months ago

            Mowens 1984: " A deep, brooding obsession with violence is not simply anti-social, I believe that constitutes mental illness ... "

            It also makes a profit at the box office.

            Even now the screenplay is in its 1st draft.

            An obsession of a different kind perhaps.

            The voyeurism of violence.

            The difference is the anti-social becomes highly sociable entertainment replete with popcorn and cola.

            If this kid realised he couldn't write a script, perhaps he just decided to become one.

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          OnlyTheTruth1 year, 5 months ago

          Apparently he had been involuntarily committed. That would seem to indicate real problems. Shouldn't that at least disqualify him from buying guns?

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            ghengisghan1 year, 5 months ago

            yes being commited automatically bars you from owning any firearms.Problem is alot ofACLU types dont want the fedral govt having mental health info in theyre data base. Also if it happened as a minor it wouldnt show up because its sealed by the courts

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            saneman1 year, 5 months ago

            Probably not in Virginia, because it would be extremely difficult to distinguish the mentally ill from the sane. Apparently, the demarcation between the two is rather obscure in Viginia.

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              ghengisghan1 year, 5 months ago

              Thats not a very nice generalization. I know many good people from Va as well as former students from the various military schools.

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                saneman1 year, 5 months ago

                sm43 is the one who made generalizations. I just figured he/she was more in tune with happenings in Viginia, and I was just going off what he/she said. Please see sm43's prior posts.

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                  saneman1 year, 5 months ago

                  Have you ever heard of Anger Management? As far as having a problem with the word "retard", the answer is yes. I have YET to be presented with an invention that would not be classified as being retarded. Maybe, somebody of your intelligence can do better.

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            RocSar1 year, 5 months ago

            You would think it would. But the truth is, being commited to a mental health facility isn't a crime and the background checks only check for criminal activity.

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          johnkamis641 year, 5 months ago

          Hi Mowens1984!!!

          I'm a friend of BronxBomber, name is Johnny. I agree with you!!!

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            Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

            Thanks, always nice to meet a fan. =] haha

            I don't ask people to agree with me, I only wish that they consider alternatives than to burrow their mind in one thought.

            Nice to meet'cha!

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              johnkamis641 year, 5 months ago

              I can't lock on one thought, I'm a paronomasiac!!!

              BTW I've suffered from depression for years, suicidal impulses as well. Never have I desired to harm others. (My latest ploy is to use fried chicken as a weapon!!!)lol!!

              Point is, this guys primary purpose was to get his name on the tube,and in papers and magazines. He knew that if he simply suicided; he wouldn't get more than a couple of paragraphs,maybe a brief mention on the news.He wanted more.

              Koreans are very private people: Chos family faces ostracism within the Korean community for thier kid losing control and violating tradition so blatently.

              Sociopathic-psychosis ia a disease.Tru, Cho was "on meds", but as someone under treatment myself, I can tell you that communication with therapists is essential to getting the meds balanced correctly. It didn't look like he did that, perhaps he quit the meds when he got out. I don't know until we see the blood chemical report.

              Hoping to chat a lot more!!!

              Johnny

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      Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

      You wouldn't call buying a firearm 1 month prior, buying ammunition. Loading that gun, walking into a classroom & dorm, and aiming the gun at the bodies of humans isn't a plan?

      It's call premeditated murder by the law, and by that law, it is stated that the individual knows what they are doing, they have a plan, and they execute that plan, be it successful or not.

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        Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

        I can see now that I'm speaking to a wall that refuses to even listen, must less consider an alternative idea other than their own nearsightedness.

        I pity that you cannot even open your mind enough to consider what I'm saying. I'm not asking that you believe or agree with it, just accept it as a possibility that maybe with the evidence given, something MIGHT have been able to be done.

        That is all.

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          ConquerorWyrm1 year, 5 months ago

          "...just accept it as a possibility that maybe with the evidence given, something MIGHT have been able to be done."

          The problem is, the operative words you use are 'maybe' and 'something' yet you don't define who any 'someones' who 'maybe' might do 'something' or what this 'something' could be...

          An awful lot of somethings could have happened, but first, you would need to know before hand what the person who 'might' do 'something' was thinking. And, if you did have those powers of reading intentions of individuals you do not know before that 'something' that 'might' happen happens, I have a shiny red cape for you and big blue boots too...

          But let's just say you can see into the future and read intentions of unknowns just so...how would you act so that this individual whom you're breathing hard on doesn't 'maybe' do 'something' which up til then had been but fantasy? What fuel can meddling add to the fire before you even are sure there is a fire?

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            ConquerorWyrm1 year, 5 months ago

            I'm a true-blue American...hate following what others do and have a tendency to carry torches for the unpopular in this world...

            besides, you're right...

            but your long posts of numbers just got stupidly annoying and that I wish you wouldn't do...

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            DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 5 months ago

            ((And, if you did have those powers of reading intentions of individuals you do not know before that 'something' that 'might' happen happens, I have a shiny red cape for you and big blue boots too... ))

            That's just silly. Superman has X-ray vision, but he can't read minds.

            check your facts please.

            marvel.com

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              ConquerorWyrm1 year, 5 months ago

              of course it's silly, because that is what I was trying to point out...

              by the way, you referenced marvel.com...problem is, Superman is DC...

              now that is just silly

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                vidman041 year, 5 months ago

                Hey....

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                  johnkamis641 year, 5 months ago

                  DC is good too!!!

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      pacificmist1 year, 5 months ago

      The guy was crazy not stupid. You are right he had a plan, and it worked. The entire thing was well thought out and executed with great care. And all the signs were there that could have stopped this. This whole thing didn't have to happen. People just don't want to get involved any more. But after the fact and now that all those people are dead inculding the gunman everyone wants to be involved.

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        slyboy21 year, 5 months ago

        Everyone needs to realize that since this was apparently planned out, it can also be thought that this kid also took the extra steps needed to keep the plan a secret until he would follow through. I believe people do want to get involved, however, if we all just jump to conclusions on every person who twitches we would all be in trouble. The last thing this world needs is adding "the quite kid in the corner" to the list of discrimations.

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    elll1 year, 5 months ago

    sm43

    you comments and points would have had so much more value if you weren't so rude.

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      elll1 year, 5 months ago

      I disagree with you calling someone a retard just because they have a different view.

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        elll1 year, 5 months ago

        have whatever reason you want...... doesn't matter

        fact is you show ignorance when you throw words around like that, which makes your point have less value!

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          elll1 year, 5 months ago

          I WON'T say it again

          I should've known not to waste my time

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            BronxBomber1 year, 5 months ago

            sm43 calling anybody a "retard" isn't politically correct. That's like making fun of mentally maladjusted folks who through no fault of they're own obtained this ailing function. I think you owe an apology to all you have offended.

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              Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

              ba da bap bap ba

              o/` i'm lovin' it o/`

              haha

              stupid commercialism =[

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                Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

                I'm well aware of that, but what you are not aware of is that we have been talking outside of this discussion.

                Before you open your mouth and make yourself look unintelligent... you know what, it's too late for that.

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                  Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

                  And I'm disgusting opinions like yours exist to begin with... but I don't go flaming you as you did to me.

                  And no one on these forums are my 'buddies'. I know none of them in person, I have only spoken to 2 people outside of the forums, ever, via messaging.

                  People aren't sticking up for my posts based on friendship, they're backing me up based on my beliefs. And just because yours differ from theirs gives you no right to attack them, or me.

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                    Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

                    It would seem the previous votes cast on yours and my own comments would contradict what you are saying.

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                      Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

                      All I'm saying is that if the majority is in favor of what I'm saying, it must show favor to what is being said.

                      That is, after all, democracy.

                      I have yet to attack you, after your numerous attempts to attack and patronize me and everyone else on these boards.

                      You can state your opinion, I can respect that... but I hold no respect for someone who attacks me or anyone else on these boards, be they my friends or not.

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                        Mowens19841 year, 5 months ago

                        I never said it was truth. I simply said that the majority here appear to favor my stand on this topic as proven by the previous votes.

                        This isn't a popularity contest to me, although you seem to think it is based on your insults at me because a few people have given me positive votes. It's not a big deal.

                        Even if a single person didn't believe what I did, I would stand my ground, just as you are. The only difference is, I made my point without judging, attacking or singling out an individual.

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                        spiralthrough1 year, 5 months ago

                        By being a jerk you sabotage yourself and your opinions. In your mind, idealistically, maybe 'ignorance/merit is reflected by the CONTENT of the argument, not the tone.' but in the real world, generally, people react aggressively to unprovoked obnoxiousness, are persuaded by a good tone, and are more objective when judging something written in an even tone. If you wanted to be judged exclusively for the content of your argument you would have presented an even tone.

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                        ConquerorWyrm1 year, 5 months ago

                        majority smajority...

                        sm43, outside the words which touched sensitive nerves, has bee spot on his his statements. Don't use a popularity contest to prove your point. He is right...you've not proposed anything other than 'something'...

                        Heck, at this point, sm43 should be wearing these neg marks as a badge of honor!

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                  elll1 year, 5 months ago

                  SM43....you assume bronxbomber was being sarcastic....what makes you so sure?

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                    BronxBomber1 year, 5 months ago

                    It isn't just politically correct, it's morally incorrect to utter a derogatory word such as the one you've said. That's what I take exception to.

                    Instead of making a point,you just vented you're rage against a fellow member that you do not even know in real life.

                    That's NO WAY to make a convincing argument, you stooped low and in you're frustration, you've let you're anger win over you're sense of reasoning you've also offended other members with you insentient, & inane rhetoric, not to mention you're self-righteous attitude bears conjecture about you're validity in you're argument..

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                      ConquerorWyrm1 year, 5 months ago

                      When people get 'offended' because of a word, be it 'retard' or any other, it is not the one who uttered the word who is the one responsible for the offense... it is the sad little person who squawks and takes offense because of subjective value given to noises. As a child, I learned a little parable about sticks and stones and the mortal edge of words...

                      needless to say, I find myself only taking offense anymore if someone isn't creative enough in trying to insult me.

                      Can't imagine the thin skin and weak little souls who would gasp and flutter o'er a mere little word... or even attempt to discredit the view of (without addressing it) the speaker just because their ears heard something they aren't old enough to hear.

                      Nuts!

                      These people need to grow up and stop crying everytime someone calls them 'booger-face' or worse...

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                        BronxBomber1 year, 5 months ago

                        "These people need to grow up and stop crying everytime someone calls them 'booger-face' or worse..."

                        The severity of the 2 words are as different as night and day! In fact if sm43 had chosen to say "booger face" instead of retard, I would'nt have butt in at all! At least booger face is a benign name in comparison at least. ConquerorWirm with all due respect.

                        Sm43 should just suck it up,tuck it in,keep it in, be a man, and apologize to the parties that were offended, and move on...at least.

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                        johnkamis641 year, 5 months ago

                        Sorry CW;

                        Everyone has 'triggers' that provoke a reaction. I have a wife who has a learning disability and a speech impediment. Were your buddy to call her 'retarded' I would to my level best, were me to meet, to put him in the hospital. A sense of superiority does not impart the right to bully others, physically,mentally or emotionally. If you have never been protective towards anyone, fine. DO NOT KNOCK THOSE WHO DO!!!

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                pacificmist1 year, 5 months ago

                Mowens I know what sm43's screen name stands for.

                sm= small 43=I.Q. damn I'm good.

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                  johnkamis641 year, 5 months ago

                  OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhh; We sit with a genius!!!

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          elel1 year, 5 months ago

          While I understand some of your comments, I am with the others and say I do not agree with your stating of "ignorance/merit is reflected by the CONTENT of the argument, not the tone"

          Your tone definitely sets the argument, and can also detract from it, if you really want someone to hear what you are saying, being foul, sour or nasty does not make your point. Personally, depending on the tone of some articles, I pass on them.

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            elel1 year, 5 months ago

            While logic by itself without commentary is tone deaf, your comments with tone lessen the logic and make it solely commentary.

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              HannibalBarca1 year, 5 months ago

              Now that was a logical statement that someone could disagree with without being insulted as it had no tone;too bad it took you two pages to get there

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