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Posted by: jeremytoday 1 year, 7 months agoDocuments released Tuesday by the FBI offered new details about the harsh interrogation practices used by military officials and contractors when questioning so-called enemy combatants.
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walden3
Jan. 3, 2007, 12:30 p.m.just winning hearts and minds. the rest of the world sees this. you can be sure that this is running on al jazeera. making us safer in the long run, reducing terrorism and hatred.
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m-simon
Jan. 3, 2007, 3:45 p.m.This koran abuse is just terrible.
It is just like drilling holes in people's skulls.
Just horrific.
Disrespecting a holy book. The shame. The horror.
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time4change
Jan. 3, 2007, 12:33 p.m.Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld are no better than Saddam, et al....war criminals all of them....and we are supporting the abuse, violations of the Geneva Convention, loss of lives (American and Iraqui), .....our tax dollars at work ....
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contrast
Jan. 3, 2007, 2:32 p.m.my tax dollars go to buy korans for the detainees yet wehn a red cent goes to a christian cause we have to hear baout separation of church and state...this is insane.
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abntv
Jan. 3, 2007, 2:44 p.m.whats this we stuff kimosauby...My tax dollars go to fighting terrorism..and to help free an oppressed people
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Teagen
Jan. 3, 2007, 8:17 p.m.Time,
What Geneva Convention? Most if not all are not uniformed combatants.They are trained to some form of military standard but dress as civilians.The Convention clearly defines these as spies.There is no quarter given for spies, no protection, no rules of war.In the past they were questioned, threatened and executed in short order. Most of the guys in Gitmo are evil guys.They offer nothing to the human race; they're a danger to everyone. I'm military so I'm not what they want.I can fight back. They're cowards looking for soft targets.Schools, shopping malls, office towers, subways and the like.Anywhere that has poor security and lots of potential targets.If you won't execute them, keep them locked away forever.And don't continue to feed them their special diets.They would never provide special meals for our people when captured. Oh, I forgot they don't take prisoners; they cut their heads off.There is no way to rehabilitate them and execution is a very viable option.
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apolitical
Jan. 3, 2007, 12:55 p.m.Its just another example of how the Bush administration is keeping America safe from terrorism by fighting a war against an unknown enemy. Bush doesn`t want to name the enemy because he is it.
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AmpLee
Jan. 3, 2007, 6:37 p.m.((Bush doesn`t want to name the enemy because he is it.)
Nah, Bush doesn't want to name an enemy, delineate clear goals etc. because clear objectives and enemies equals the kind of clarity that brings accountabilty. This way the true agenda, whatever that might be, remains hidden, and the given agenda remains nice and vague.
Are we winning the war? Losing? is it even a war? Did we already win? How many are we fighting against? What are our objectives? What criteria must be reached to start bringing troops back home?
You get the idea...
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abntv
Jan. 3, 2007, 2:02 p.m.If you botherd to read this article it said several times that there is nothing new in it, that all the "abuse" reports were investigated.
To compare Bush,Cheney and Rumsfeld to Saddam is moronic. Iraq has never signed off on the Geneva convention. It has never been proven that the methods used at GITMO are in violation of the Geneva Convention. I would also note the writers use of the word abusive treatment..when all other reports are using the phrase "harsh treatment" biased if you ask me.
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AmpLee
Jan. 3, 2007, 6:40 p.m.yeah man, that's the thing. A lot of folks think the Geneva convention is some kind of 'world' law, and all countries are subject to it, but the the way I understand it it is an agreement between certain nations, and not every nation is a part of the agreement. I think this is right, and I think a lot of those crying 'Geneva!' don't understand this.
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abntv
Jan. 3, 2007, 2:26 p.m.My question is..why is this even being posted? It is not news,it is a old story..and the writer is obviously biased.
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THOMNH62
Jan. 3, 2007, 2:30 p.m.wow, some times I just can't believe what I hear, Time4change, move to Iran, do us all a favor and just go. Saddam was responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, crimes against humanity and you put them together with Bush. Wow, thanks to you the dems will be in power and your tax dollars you so preciously refer to, are going to go up and up and up, rock on and get another glass of cool aid
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contrast
Jan. 3, 2007, 2:33 p.m."so called enemy combatants" oh for god's sake how far will this namby pamby politcal correctness go!? Either the people we have in custody are fighters or they are not! and last I checked Yahoo news wasnt really cleared to make that call.
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walden3
Jan. 3, 2007, 2:42 p.m.and how many have been charged or convicted of terrorism? me thinks you put the cart before the horse.
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abntv
Jan. 3, 2007, 2:46 p.m.they have only recently been allowed to charge many of them because nobody could agree on what court to try them in..nice try though..need a bandaide for that bleeding heart of yours???
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PapaWolf
Jan. 3, 2007, 11:08 p.m.>>Yeah.. Bush probably just picked those guys up off the street because he has a quota to fill..
Hate to tell you this, but your attempt at sarcasm isn't too far from the truth. Don't you remember after 9/11, Muslim immigrants were requested to report to local gov't offices for confirming their status, etc. Many of them mysteriously disappeared with their families not knowing what happened.
Also, their were the deportations of INNOCENT non-US citizens to countries other than their home countries, to places like Syria where they were tortured. Example: Maher Arar (http://www.maherarar.ca/)
Google for more links on this 1 case:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=com.net arar"&btnG=Search
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MajJohn
Jan. 6, 2007, 12:18 p.m.Let me see, how many prisoners in any past war who were interned were charged and convicted of anything? I know! Zero! The trials take place after the war and the victors conduct the trials, eg. Nuremberg, etc. Do you see how it works, Walden? The only time there is a trial in the detention camps was to give the guards fun times before the execution.
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JDollar555
Jan. 3, 2007, 3:38 p.m.I think your comments are very funny froggy57. I agree with you and just don't understand how people that live in this great country can't understand that we are at war! I really don't care what they do with the detainees, I care about the kids we have over there from OUR country. Korans for everyone, and by all means stop saying bad words like Christmas and just use the world Holiday so as not to offend anyone. Do you realize separation of church and state is a communist idea and the term PC also comes from communism?
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m-simon
Jan. 3, 2007, 5:46 p.m.Separation of church and state is a good idea.
It prevents religious wars.
OTOH Muslim doctrine unites church and state. So maybe it is a good idea after all. LOL
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abntv
Jan. 3, 2007, 2:41 p.m.They are not "so called enemy combatants" they are enemy combatants, or at least are being investigated as such..and if they were more co-operative the ones that were not involved would be set free sooner..but they refuse to co-operate
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SubZero
Jan. 3, 2007, 6:28 p.m.Can't we all just get along?
Liberals, conservatives muslims, christians?
I love America.. and you =('''
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Amazing1
Jan. 3, 2007, 7:14 p.m.I think we should treat them very well. Give them nothing to watch but movies like Bambi, Lassie, and Over the Hedge. 24 hours a day. Brainwash them into being softies until they break down and tell us everything they know. Have the soundtracks translated into their language. Respect their holy book, dietary restrictions and let them write letters to their loved ones. (We don't have to mail them.)
Treat me mean and you will get nothing from me. But you've heard of the phrase "Kill them with Kindness." I think it would be far more productive as far as getting information and would keep us totally clear of abuse charges.
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Teagen
Jan. 3, 2007, 8:27 p.m.If you were fighting a traditional enemy, that might work but we're not. They're belief is simple. They either kill us or they won't get into their paradise. They've taken a very twisted religion and twisted further. Locking them away forever is one of two options, execution being the other. They're very violent prisoners. Regardless of what the FBI claims of abuse, the prisoners should never be permitted in the general population. Part of their training is similar to our POW training. While the military should train soldiers for that, these animals are not soldiers. At best they're spies at worst terrorists. Either case, it deserves the death penalty. They're trained to go after civilians, as both shields and targets. I'm amazed that we haven't seen more attempts on schools, shopping malls or colleges. I suppose we would have to thank the FBI & Homeland for that.
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beckinjerusalem
Jan. 4, 2007, 1:09 a.m.I'm appalled how certain institutions in our country make an issue about how the detainees are being treated. The question we should ask ourselves is what is more important, their welfare or our countrymen---the americans. As far as I'm concerned, I will within humane conditions extract whatever information I can get from these detainees. Let us remember our goal is to keep this country safe by all means. We are not killing these detainees to extract important information from them. Let us also remember what they do to our countrymen they capture---they behead them after they have tortured them.
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