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Posted by: Spadecaller 1 year, 9 months ago"A few minutes ago we received correspondence from the Americans saying that President Saddam Hussein is no longer under the control of U.S. forces," according to the statement faxed to The Associated Press.
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Tango57
Dec. 29, 2006, 12:27 p.m.Just heard it on the news wire. I have suspicions on this, does anyone else in the legal world have any? I would like to hear your comments. Another concern is there will be an increase in violence and no back-up support..
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LordOfChaos
Dec. 29, 2006, 3:55 p.m.FACT: Iraq had been developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons since the late '60s. In 1981, the Israelis destroyed his French-built nuclear reactor.
FACT: Saddam had used a mix of chemical weapons (tabun, VX, and mustard) against civilian targets in the north, and against Iranian troops.
FACT: Saddam had repeatedly stated his desire to be the head of a new Islamic Empire, with Baghdad as its capital.
It's funny, but a lot of the "no threat to us" arguements could have been said about Germany in 1936. You may remember this as World War II. Germany hadn't attacked us, yet we declared war, invaded the sovereign state of Germany, deposed the ruler, imposed democracy, stayed for 60 years, and we lost a lot more than 3,000 troops doing it. People, read some history.
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1basque1
Dec. 29, 2006, 12:27 p.m.Pray for our troops who will be in the cross-hairs of the violence to come...
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LordOfChaos
Dec. 29, 2006, 3:47 p.m.Let me see if I have this straight:
Stay and fight - more violence
Cut and run - more violence
Phased withdrawal - more violence
Execute Saddam - more violence
Lock Saddam up for life - more violence
Since there's going to be more violence no matter what we do, let's take the gloves off and win!
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Spadecaller
Dec. 29, 2006, 12:30 p.m.I'm especially concerned for my son, over there. I can't communicate about what I know ( or what I am not suppose to know).
Maybe they plan to let him escape so he can have his damn country back and their insane civil war too.
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Tango57
Dec. 29, 2006, 12:50 p.m.Your son as well as the rest of the soldiers are in my prayers. Are there any concerns on a direct attack on the U.S.?
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Msshechild
Dec. 29, 2006, 8:10 p.m.I wish safety for your son and our troops--especially right now. I have a son and really feel for you. God Bless You and your son.
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Tango57
Dec. 29, 2006, 12:31 p.m.Tony Blair just happens to be in Florida on vacation and George and the gang at the ranch. What are they running from? Or just perfect timing for vacations?
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remleomike
Dec. 29, 2006, 12:53 p.m.running from?
did you want Blair and Bush to be real men and to pull the switch?
would that help... geez!
Saddam needs to be put down, and this chapter closed.
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brettodactyl
Dec. 29, 2006, 12:53 p.m.Running? President Bush is always at his ranch this time of year. We're having the holidays, after all. As far as Tony Blair being in the U.S., I seriously doubt it's because he's running from something.
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Tango57
Dec. 29, 2006, 12:47 p.m.Excerpt from above article that is questioning:
There have been disagreements among Iraqi officials in recent days as to whether Iraqi law dictates the execution must take place within 30 days and whether President Jalal Talabani and his two deputies have to approve it.
Juhi, the High Tribunal spokesman, has said that with approval from Talabani, Saddam could be put to death within 30 days.
But the president's office sent a letter to al-Maliki on Friday saying the death sentence does not have to be approved by Talabani and his deputies, a senior government official said on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media.
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rendarsmith
Dec. 29, 2006, 1:50 p.m.They probably want to hurry and get it done while our guys are still there to make sure he doesn't escape. Man this is scary.
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brettodactyl
Dec. 29, 2006, 12:58 p.m.Saddam Hussein is such an evil man, and I'm glad the justice process in Iraq's new government has come through in this case. I'm sure this is a cause for celebration by all of those people who suffered at the hands of Saddam's regime. I'm glad the book will truly be closed on Saddam's government.
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Tango57
Dec. 29, 2006, 1 p.m.Please read the article or at least the excerpt posted above. The question is the legality of this whole thing.
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kneechay
Dec. 29, 2006, 1:02 p.m.I wouldn't doubt that Cheney/Rummy/Bush wish they still had Sadam running things over there. It's amazing to me still how clueless this admin. seemed to be about the nature of the sectarian strife over there. The kind of barbarism we are seeing between different factions of Muslims simply shows that these intellectually primitive people (kind of where we were during the Inqusition) needed to be ruled with an iron fist by Sadam. Sadam is a disguisting tyrant in my eyes, but I don't see how he could have done things much differently and maintained control of such a country, especially as long as he did.
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remleomike
Dec. 29, 2006, 1:07 p.m.You are INSANE!
Barely four years old and the dust hasn't even begun to settle to get a clear picture of the good that will eventually come of all this.
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insignia100
Dec. 30, 2006, 12:21 a.m.I think that one thing we need to keep in mind is the history and development of religion. Islam is around 1200 years old. Lets take a look at Christianity when it was 1200 years old. Yup, at that age, it falls more or less right in the middle of the Medieval era. And we all know how Christians acted during the middle ages.
I'm not saying that strife within the Islamic community is solely due to its age, but it is an interesting statistic that when Christianity was the same age, Christians were doing some incredibly vile and disgusting things -- in the name of God, no less.
Food for thought.
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remleomike
Dec. 29, 2006, 1:13 p.m.Do you think for a moment that they would left any stone unturned in THIS trial in adhearing to the letter of the law.
I don't think so.
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kneechay
Dec. 29, 2006, 1:11 p.m.As for legality, I believe to debate such things in a country such as Iraq is largely a waste of time. The main thing is it would be difficult if not impossible for Iraq to move on with Saddam alive. He must be sacrificed for the country to have any hope of starting something new, but it will take a lot more than his execution to stabilize Iraq. In all honesty, I don't think Iraq will be stable within our life spans, which will be tragic for many people. Bush/Cheney/Rummy ought to be impeached. They know it too, I heard that Chen/Rum have bought land in non-extradition treaty countries. They'll never pay for what THEY did, and that makes a mockery of American "justice" and "democracy" world wide.
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remleomike
Dec. 29, 2006, 1:19 p.m."I don't think Iraq will be stable within our life spans, which will be tragic for many people"
Some people probably said that about Germany and Japan a while back as well.
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evolute50
Dec. 29, 2006, 1:11 p.m.While hanging Saddam Hussein may feel like justice, the world will not really be any different once he's dead. The facts remain: We made this man what he was, supported him, ignored his atrocities so long as they supported our aims. When he acted up and stepped over some weird line we whacked him, reduced his defenses and immobilized his effectiveness. His crimes should have been tried in a world court. There was no need to go in with our Army to take out Saddam Hussein. But the current administration was too impatient to wait while sanctions and inspections weakened him and too lazy and arrogant to work with the rest of the world to bring Saddam down some other way. Instead we've killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and lost thousands of American lives to arrange for this public hanging. Cowboy George and his henchman Evil Dick Cheney got their way. gawdammit. Shoot 'em up boyz.
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connerd1
Dec. 29, 2006, 11:33 p.m.I think you need to the archives, and see just how patient George Bush was with regard to working with the world leaders and Saddam, before he sent troops over! It is terrible that innocent people were killed, But this is war! I am not in agreement with Mr. Bush on some things, but I support him 100% He is doing the right thing in this instance. Any american who does not stand behind him on this needs to live over there!
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Tango57
Dec. 29, 2006, 1:24 p.m.I believe in democracy and the laws that support a democracy. Whithout pre judging any man's fate, the law is what keeps this country civil. If we are the country of good-will and spread the word of democracy to further provide a global community of peace, where does that leave us when we no longer abide by those that govern under the heading of "Democracy".
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Msshechild
Dec. 29, 2006, 8:07 p.m.I really respect your words Tango, however, Islam and Democracy do not go together. All Middle Eastern countries are based on Islam and Sharia law and there is no room for democracy since everything is based on laws from the 7th century. Let's look at the two "democratic" countries in the Middle East: Lebanon and Palestine. Both countries are almost in civil war and the common consensus votes or favors groups with terrorists ties (i.e., Hamas and Hezbollah).
Leave democracy for counties with where there is a seperation of religion and state.
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Amazing1
Dec. 29, 2006, 1:26 p.m.The shame that I see is that not that many years ago, Saddam was our ally. Rummy was seen shaking his hand and smiling. Surely these photos should be on the front page of every newspaper in America to remind the public of the kind of perfidious administration we have. Previous administrations have done the same. It is not a Republican/Democrat thing. It's a politician thing. It's the power brokers playing their games. From being greeted warmly by Rummy, Saddam is now set to hang. What do you think that tells the rest of the world about the good nature and reliability of this nation?
In the meantime, we must all pray for the soldiers who will be over there, trying to make it through the reactions of the Iraqis. Spadecaller, I shall pray for your son.
And in the end, the world will not be one whit safer when the man is dead.
The whole business is shameful.
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coreyspring
Dec. 29, 2006, 1:36 p.m.From CNN:
Reuters reports Saddam Hussein still is in U.S. custody, a U.S. official in Baghdad said, denying reports that the U.S. military has handed the former president over to Iraqi authorites to be hanged.
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PaganGodess
Dec. 29, 2006, 1:50 p.m.I'll probably get flamed for this comment but I have not let that stop me before so here goes!
First to those who have made valid concerns about what will happen to our troops in Iraq, I hope good will overcome and keep them safe. Naive? Maybe, but heartfelt!
Second, Saddam is a cruel man but I don't believe killing him makes us any better than he is morally. Just my opinion.
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PaganGodess
Dec. 29, 2006, 2:27 p.m.Awww! As always, you are a doll! I've been having a rough time of it lately.
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PaganGodess
Dec. 29, 2006, 4:09 p.m.{{Killing him doesn't make us better than him. However I didn't see anyone say it did...}}
They didn't have to! It was obvious to me that for some this falls under the definition of "justifiable murder."
Perhaps we should ammend our laws to make murder legal "in certain instances."
Oh that's right! We already do that in our courts of law.
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toughlove
Dec. 29, 2006, 2:01 p.m.I believe killing this piece of crap is the best and only way I just wish it could be more cruel in some ways. Hanging is to good for this monster. He and his piece of crap sons acan rot in hell as the flesh is ripped from their bones. Our trpps will be just fine, our situation will be no different, they hated us before and they hate us now to friggen bad for them. If the US gets backed into a corner to much I hope the big bomb comes out and ends this stand off with a people that does not value their life now, but rather values the life after death, thats a hard one to overcome. But with force we will win this situation. Iran better watch their backs, they are playing with fire too by sending weapons and insurgents, they mess with the bull they will get the horns too.
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CTooSweetG
Dec. 29, 2006, 3:08 p.m.toughlove you are very boastful about your Bull(y)and have little regards for the lives of others. Alot of people here in our own bck yards are starving and homeless. Do you think it's really fair for this Government to invade another foreign territory and take thousands of more lives like their ruler? Do you think that they are even in a possition to take such measures with the lives of our own children and drain our economy of resources to support such actions; while there are children and adults alike still here suffering? One should always clean their own mess before venturing off to clean another! It is sad to see how many people out there think that they have the right to take the lives of others. You just wait till it happens to you and tell me how you really feel then. Then again you won't be able to. In the end this government is no different than that of Saddam. As for hating americans, you should be thinking individually not as a whole cause this is still a racist country.
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stopislamafacists
Dec. 29, 2006, 2:26 p.m.Will CNN, CNBC, etc. all the lib media outlets show Saddam hanging like they showed the charred corpses of Americans hanging?? I doubt it. He'll become a martyr in their eyes....
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CTooSweetG
Dec. 29, 2006, 2:34 p.m.I basicly don't believe that anyone has the right to take life especially knowing that they cannot give the gift of life. Now Saddam is accused of all these war crimes while he was in power and the torture was said to be mainly towards those imprisoned for making an asassination attempt on his life. As for his own people, if God saw all this while he was in power then in his (GOD) time he will take care of him for his deeds.The bottom line is this, many men in power are not fit to be there but they are, and while they reign, the public is usually the victim. All in all is there any difference between a man who inflicts his own people and a man who comes from afar to do them more extensive harm!?
Hopefully justice will be executed on all those who took the lives of others without a just cause. And seeing Saddam's fate should be the same measure for those who took it upon themselves to go there with troops and wiped out thousands more innocent civilian lives with their Daisy Bombs. BUSH
