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A man used flammable liquid to light himself on fire, apparently to protest a San Joaquin Valley school district's decision to change the names of winter and spring breaks to Christmas and Easter vacation.

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ldstennisgeek
Dec. 23, 2006, 11:59 a.m.
Sounds like this man has a death wish

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  m-simon
  Dec. 23, 2006, 4:16 p.m.
  I just love Christmas lights.
  
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    m-simon
    Dec. 23, 2006, 4:19 p.m.
    That is in extremely bad taste and you ought to be ashamed of your self.
    
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      m-simon
      Dec. 23, 2006, 4:21 p.m.
      I blame multiple persoinality disorder.
      And the inability to create sock puppets.
      
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        LordyLordy
        Dec. 23, 2006, 5:23 p.m.
        It has to be the inability to create sock puppets.
        Actually, if he wanted to set himself on fire, just make sure he's 100 feet away from any flamable structure, hand him the gas can and then a match. I suppose this is in bad taste too but anyone depressed enough or stupid enough to do this, isn't very well hinged. We're safer in this world without him. ..and what a stupid reason to do this. It was just an excuse, or someone brain washed him into thinking this would solve anything. Reminds me of the Kamikazee pilots, the terrorist suicide bombers. I'll take my hat off to this guy with a little respect. If he wanted to kill himself, at least he didn't take any innocent women and children with him or anyone else. You got to respect that but certainly not his statements.
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        jehovahjones
        Dec. 24, 2006, 12:21 a.m.
        nah... you haven't even got one personality...
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  Ebonvoice
  Dec. 24, 2006, 12:41 a.m.
  He sounds like a prime candidate for the Darwin Award-- the irony is delicious.
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  blinkers
  Dec. 24, 2006, 4:41 a.m.
  Good calm reasoned post DocJ, dash of eloquence too. Glad to see you're still giving value for money to your numerous admirers. You advocate the self immolation of tens of millions of US citizens. A nice Christian Christmas wish eh?
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  jforce185
  Dec. 24, 2006, 11:31 a.m.
  are you insane? people like you are the reason the country's in the shape its in today.
  
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    eddie107
    Dec. 24, 2006, 1:33 p.m.
    From what I can see, the left wing supporters want America to leave the Middle Eastern population to worship as they wish, and to kill and maim other people because it is their right to worship how they want to.
    But in America, left wingers have so much distaste for American's, that they want to see any existence of religion erased.
    Take away Christmas, one of the key factors in America's financial success. Dont acknowledge anything to do with God at all. Tell the children of the new generation that there is no God, and that there is no reason to be a decent person, Nothing that you will ever be held accountable for if you are not caught. They will all be liars, cheats, murderers, lawyers and politicians.
    
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      jforce185
      Dec. 29, 2006, 2:58 a.m.
      i'm an atheist and i've never murdered anyone. and following a christian religion doesn't mean you'll turn out to be a good person. i mean, look at that westboro baptist church in kansas who run around with signs that say things like "god hates fags" on them. good thing they're so religious, or they might not be so kind hearted and accepting of others...
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Dave59
Dec. 23, 2006, 12:01 p.m.
I guess that's a good a reason to torch your self as any. Though it does seem just a lttle extreme to me.
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mbkijb
Dec. 23, 2006, 12:04 p.m.
That is just kind of stupid. I would have used a different excuse than something like that!
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DanmLiberals
Dec. 23, 2006, 12:12 p.m.
what a stange world we live in.

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  jehovahjones
  Dec. 24, 2006, 12:40 a.m.
  so kill yourself... please...
  
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    eddie107
    Dec. 24, 2006, 12:36 p.m.
    Sounds like someone would like to have everyone in the world to agree with whatever viewpoint their pointy little head comes up with. If they dont, they should die, or at least that is the opinion of this person and the terrorists in the Middle East. Just had to have those paint chips when you were little didn't you?
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Greenmanbacchus
Dec. 23, 2006, 12:20 p.m.
I can appreciate someone's feeling strongly about the separation of church and state...but it seems to me that if its all that legitimate an issue, you could probably get it stopped in court. Setting himself on fire speaks much more of his own issues. Possibly we all know someone a bit like that: "Don't tick him off, he'll hurt himself."
Happy Holidays to everyone :)

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  PaganGodess
  Dec. 23, 2006, 1 p.m.
  I agree it is an issue of separation of church and state. It's unfortunate, and extremely arrogant that the school district is insensitive to this issue.
  As for the protestor, I think he should seek extensive therapy.
  
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    Illuminate
    Dec. 23, 2006, 10:53 p.m.
    PC is so uncool!!!!
    Ashes to ashes and dust to dust his answer is blowing in the wind.
    
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      eddie107
      Dec. 24, 2006, 1:22 p.m.
      Right on the money Illuminate, PC stems from people thinking too hard. "Whos feelings are we hurting now?"
      Christmas is a very important financial institution in America. And even though, many people would to see Jesus disappear, you cannot celebrate Christmas without him, Christmas is the celebration of Christ's birthday. And to tell a whole nation that if they are to worship, they have to do it in secrecy is lunacy.
      Does anyone really want Christmas to stop?
      There are Christian extremists, just like Muslim extremists, I think that Christians will be the first to stand up to Christian extremists to let them know it is wrong, rather than waiting for someone to get hurt or killed.
      There was something far more disturbing going on inside this person's head than America's right to celebrate Christmas and Easter. I hope that someone can find out what it is, and help him to overcome it before something truly tragic happens.
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    Ebonvoice
    Dec. 24, 2006, 12:28 a.m.
    Gee, Rich, if you don't like it, then change the Constitution (You'll need the 1st Amendment and some white-out).
    One of our country's fundamental principles is freedom to worship. The very tenor of your post is proof that one cannot embrace a specific faith and still advocate religious freedom.
    Envision the shoe on the other foot-- would you feel comfortable openly celebrating your Christianity in Iran, Afghanistan or Indonesia?
    ...I know I wouldn't. And this is what makes America a better society than a religious/repressive regime. The only thing more fulfilling than embracing one's faith is the freedom to do so.
    Sorry Rich, the State cannot endorse or even give the impression of endorsing a particular faith. That isn't what America is about.
    Now, if a PRIVATE school wanted to call it Christmas and Easter vacation, more power to 'em-- that's their right. But public entities funded by taxpayers (not all of whom are Christian) may not make such a distinction.
    
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      mivan4
      Dec. 24, 2006, 9:57 a.m.
      Actually, He doesn't need to change the constitutuion at all
      or the first amendment. "Seperation of Churcn and State" never
      was in the constitution or the first amendment. THOUSAND
      BUCKS to anyone who can find that quote in the actual
      constitution. I will help you, Those words (which were
      taken out of context by the supreme court). were in a letter
      from Thomas Jefferson to a Baptist group congradulating
      the Baptist for their actions. The Supreme court misunderstood
      the quote anyway. They misuderstood what the word State was
      refering to. This is one thing that the Supreme Court did
      that needs Revisited. Besides all indications of the time
      shows that the very people the Court used to validate
      their argument didn't follow that advice theirselves.
      
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        mivan4
        Dec. 24, 2006, 10:24 a.m.
        Here is some further help, What the Constitution actually does say. "Congress shall make NO LAW regarding the establishment of Religion or the FREE exercise there of".
        This Part of the constitution has been violated many times
        Due to the False statement of seperation of state and state.
        
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        Ebonvoice
        Dec. 24, 2006, 8:48 p.m.
        Mivan: It's true that the First Amendment has been violated several times. A public school system referring to these breaks as Christmas and Easter Vacation is one of those times.
        Specifically, the First Amendment begins: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..."
        Referring to these breaks as Christmas and Easter vacation not only "respects the establishment of religion" but also, by its exclusion of other faiths may also "prohibit the free exercise" of other religions, by implying that only Christian religions are "worthy" of holidays. Hence, the seasonal nomenclature.
        I remember Christmas and Easter Vacation as a kid, too, but hey, mistakes happen. Again, if one wants to call it such in their homes, or if a private institution wants to refer to it as a religious break, go ahead; I ain't mad at ya. But a public institution, funded by taxpayers? uh-uh.
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        Ebonvoice
        Dec. 24, 2006, 9:10 p.m.
        Jeepers, Mivan, there's no "right to privacy" mentioned in the Constitution either! And don't waste any time looking for the phrase "no taxation without representation". I'll see your thousand and raise a million, as we wait for the secret police to take our homes and possessions away.
        An individual's right to privacy, while not specifically mentioned, is virtually guaranteed in the 4th, 5th and 14th Amendments to the Constitution. That same is true with the separation of church and state.
        Which leaks into an even more volatile issue: shall we go by the letter of the law, or the spirit in which the law is intended?
        The spirit of the law affords Americans more protection from our Government than by simply sticking to what's written on parchment.
        Playing semantics sucks, though. Can we just say that attempted self-immolation over a freakin' holiday is overreacting a tad?
        
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        mivan4
        Dec. 24, 2006, 9:46 p.m.
        The spirit of the law was to allow religious freedom and not
        mandate any specific religion, but not to make a atheist
        Government out of it as some are trying to do. No law was
        ment to stop making a State ordained religion, BUT not restrict free exercise in government, public or private
        settings.
        
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        mivan4
        Dec. 25, 2006, 9:52 a.m.
        I tend to be a true contructionist, but realize that can lead
        to problems, Just as Spirit of the Law can lead to even more
        problems. Spirit of the law can lead to any interpretation
        that the political wind is blowing at the time. This is an
        example where the Supreme court looked at a small exert from
        Thomas J. took it out of context then applied it. How about
        the reason the law was put in the constitution in the first
        place would not that be a better guide for the spirt of the
        Law idea? Lets examine that instead. The reason that was put
        in was they were trying to escape the problem in England of
        a State Church led religious persecution, not to regulate religious practice in government.
        One could strech the other admendments
        to defend the rights of theachers and other public employees
        use of religous freedom.
        In fact the idea of Religious freedom in itself is a Christian doctrine. God himself gave us freewill and even
        HE won't iterfere with that, so what right do we have to do so.
        
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        Ebonvoice
        Dec. 27, 2006, 12:39 a.m.
        The First Amendment as it stands, is meant not to regulate religious practice in government, but to separate religious practice from government-- for precisely the reason you cite. It disagree that it was taken out of context.
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    PaganGodess
    Dec. 24, 2006, 3:15 a.m.
    {{ am offended by your use of "God"in your screen name.I know that sounds wrong of me,but this is what you advocate in your comment.We can't have it both ways,maybe it should be,"Pagandoll",no christian reference that way.}}
    How unfortunate for you that you are so threatened by the beliefs of those who do not agree with you. I find it fascinating how many assumptions people have made about me based on my user name. I'm so glad to see my comment has sparked some lively debate.
    Cheers to you! = ]
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  LordyLordy
  Dec. 23, 2006, 7:29 p.m.
  I cannot appreciate anyone feeling strongly about this issue when it comes to seperation of church and state. What about the word Christ in Christmas does not only he but anyone else not understand?
  What happened to the Christian's rights to celebrate this holiday, and it's not happy holiday, it's Christmas for pete's sake.
  I think the non-Christians need to realize that they too need to back up, back off. Insisting on your rights usually infringes on someone else's rights. A moment of silence is not a prayer, Happy Holiday is not Merry Christmas.
  Is there so much hate in the ACLU and those who support this that they cannot see they are taking away someone else's rights, in this case those who celebrate Christmas. Separation of church and state doesn't mean the state gets to force atheism upon the general population.
  
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    laurrra
    Dec. 23, 2006, 11:09 p.m.
    Wow you have got to be kidding me. No one is taking away christians rights. I think we have a right to ask that in a PUBLIC school we call it a holiday break instead of Christmas break because not everybody celebrates christmas! Wouldn't you be offended if you were given time off to go on a Hannakuh break? It makes no sense because you aren't Jewish. Therefore, why call it a Christmas break? (By the way I am not saying this guy was doing a good thing. What he did was crazy and way too extreme)
    
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      jehovahjones
      Dec. 24, 2006, 12:24 a.m.
      yeah. that's exactly what morons like "lordy" miss -- the obvious.
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      PaganGodess
      Dec. 24, 2006, 3:22 a.m.
      Well said laurrra.
      Happy Holidays! = ]
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      eddie107
      Dec. 24, 2006, 2:36 p.m.
      Yes but are we taking a Hanukkah break? If we were, I would take it, and think, wow, I get a break for someone else's religion. Yay.
      Why is it that everyone is so concerned that America is infringing on the rights of other people in other nations to worship how they want, but want to keep people in America from doing the same? Why is it that America has to celebrate Christmas, but keep it secret that we are doing it? There is where the utter ridiculousness comes from.
      If someone said, celebrate the 4th of July, but dont let anyone know why you are celebrating because you might offend someone, would you do so in secrecy? Why should Americans run away from religious persecution?
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    PaganGodess
    Dec. 24, 2006, 3:19 a.m.
    {{Or they run around talkin about being"BORN AGAIN",sorry I got it right the first time.}}
    How very arrogant of you. Thank you for making my point.
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    Ebonvoice
    Dec. 24, 2006, 12:38 a.m.
    "Insisting on your rights usually infringes on someone else's rights."
    Lordy, your implication is that it's okay to infringe on someone else's religious rights as long as you're Christian.
    Also, to clarify, the ACLU is not in the business of taking away Christmas. That's the same as saying that the ACLU is pro-slavery for defending the KKK's right to speak. It's a First Amendment thing, dude.
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  msmklady
  Dec. 24, 2006, 10:48 a.m.
  I am sorry but separation of church and state does not exsit. It is never stated in the Constitution. Alot of people say that it is implied but it actually says "Congress will make no law establishing a religion....." When they scream "Separation of Church and State" they usually want to squash specifically Christianity in favor of "Some other" belief.
  Seperation of Church and State was the topic of a letter written by Thomas Jefferson telling a specific church that the government would not "Infringe" on their way of worship.
  
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    Ebonvoice
    Dec. 24, 2006, 9:13 p.m.
    Neither does the right to privacy. See my post above.
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warandpeace
Dec. 23, 2006, 12:36 p.m.
Thats all kinds to make the world go around..even freaks
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PinkyPie
Dec. 23, 2006, 12:54 p.m.
ahhh...auto-Darwinism rears it's head.
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Albion
Dec. 23, 2006, 1:03 p.m.
Me thinks this guy had a bit of a mental health problem.
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dadesider
Dec. 23, 2006, 1:03 p.m.
...and the band plays on...
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VulgarCelebrity7
Dec. 23, 2006, 1:05 p.m.
If the truth be known....he had a bad experience at the church camp weinee roast when he was a kid. Now he'll look like a weinee for the rest of his roasted life.
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Papiann
Dec. 23, 2006, 1:06 p.m.
Some people are incredibly stupid.
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vandee
Dec. 23, 2006, 1:42 p.m.
And I thought the Muslim protesters who cut open their own heads with swords were nuts. Wow.
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dorchesterboy48
Dec. 23, 2006, 1:45 p.m.
wow...
imagine what he would have done if the changed it to
Navidad y vacaciones de pascua
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autoracer555
Dec. 23, 2006, 1:45 p.m.
Crash and burn...
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Dibbun
Dec. 23, 2006, 1:58 p.m.
This pitiful creature has only gotten a taste of what awaits him in the afterlife. He has made the choice to fight against God, and for that he will suffer. It's really just sad when you live in a world where people will light themselves on fire to protest Christmas, which is essentially what this man did. Christmas is about charity, about love and happiness! In any case, I shan't let him spoil my holiday.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE! MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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  JohnBryansFontaine
  Dec. 23, 2006, 3:35 p.m.
  The irony and disconnect of Dibbun comments is hilarious. After condemning some PC Stalinist shmucko-brain to damnation, Dibbun writes about 'charity, about love and happiness'. I guess that mercy has nothing to do with these values.
  As a Liberal, I love Christmas, for I believe it's the most Liberal time of the year. People are encouraged to give, especially to the poor, office parties mean that the abstinence crowd has to shut up, and the international flavor of the holiday also means that the nationalist crowd needs to shut up as well.
  So wishing Good Will to All ( a.k.a. wishing none eternal damnation ) Merry Christmas to everyone. Even the crispy PC Loony Lad and Dibbun.
  
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    spectrum
    Dec. 23, 2006, 3:41 p.m.
    A perfect sentiment! Thank you.
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    LordyLordy
    Dec. 23, 2006, 5:34 p.m.
    Sadly there is not enough of the Christmas spirit the rest of the year. As soon as January 1st rolls around, the anything to make a profit and walk over anyone in your way crowd will be back on the streets. Not all though. There are still some of us who will treat you the same 365 days of the year.
    I don't think anyone truly wishes eternal damnation on anyone, not even the far left or right, although I think that is exactly where that fellow ended up. We, at this end, though, can only let God sort it out. He's beyond our help. One match took care of that.
    
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      spectrum
      Dec. 23, 2006, 5:49 p.m.
      He is not dead. Only 1st degree burns on his arm.
      
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        LordyLordy
        Dec. 23, 2006, 7:45 p.m.
        Which means the ACLU will flock to him. He'll write a book and become rich. He'll be on Larry King. Rosie O'Donnel will feature him as her next guess.
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      Ebonvoice
      Dec. 24, 2006, 12:45 a.m.
      "Sadly there is not enough of the Christmas spirit the rest of the year. As soon as January 1st rolls around, the anything to make a profit and walk over anyone in your way crowd will be back on the streets."
      It's worse than that. Walk into a Target store on December 26th, and you'll see Valentine's Day stuff throughout the place.
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    SpazMat
    Dec. 24, 2006, 2:24 p.m.
    John,
    The real irony is that you see a warning and call it condemnation. If I tell you not to mix fire and gas, like this poor soul did, it's not my fault that you burn when you do. When a Christian points out that if you don't put your faith in Jesus, you will go to Hell, it is pointing out the consequences of your actions. Have I been specific enough for you to understood the difference?
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  VulgarCelebrity7
  Dec. 23, 2006, 6:55 p.m.
  "Son Burns & Sun Tans"...."Next Jerry".
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  truthaddict
  Dec. 23, 2006, 11:17 p.m.
  What you religious nuts fail to see is that what he was protesting against was the endorsement of religion by the public school system. He was protesting the breaking down of the wall between church and state. What you nuts fail to see is that if you do finally succeed in tearing down that wall, you will be next. Your right to worship will be in danger. So go ahead and giggle with glee when someone on the "other side" burns himself with gasoline in the process of standing up for his convictions. I suppose that is the "christian" thing to do nowadays. Just remember that those on the other side are willing to fight for your right to worship freely just as much as they're willing to fight for their right to have freedom FROM religion.
  For most Christians nowadays, standing up for your convictions equates to denying other americans the right to marry just because they're different. Very christ-like indeed...
  
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    CovalentBond
    Dec. 24, 2006, 1:22 a.m.
    Christmas was declared a U.S. Federal Holiday in 1870. 136 years ago. On December 19, 2000 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that it was not a violation of the separation of church and state.
    Other than weddings and funerals, I haven't been in a church years. Nobody has told me how to believe or what to believe, ever. Christians don't scare me. They do annoy me on occasion. As do liberals. All sides need to start using some common sense. This poor sob needs some real help.
    This country is about what is best for the majority. Not the few that can't or won't fit in. The pursuit of happiness is a constitutional right. But happiness is not. We have to find that in ourselves.
    Dear Lord,
    Please save me from those who would save me from myself.
    A God fearing Atheist. :)
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  jehovahjones
  Dec. 24, 2006, 12:28 a.m.
  Dibbun,
  so practice some charity, asswipe.
  I am God, and I saved a spot in hell for you, right beside the lava tub.
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  Albion
  Dec. 25, 2006, 8:07 p.m.
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Bereft
Dec. 23, 2006, 2:01 p.m.
I guess it must really burn him up. I wonder if he had somebody ready with the fire extinguisher sseconds after he lit up to put him out - just to make his point. Either way, hope he wore his clean undies...
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dorchesterboy48
Dec. 23, 2006, 2:09 p.m.
he looks kind well done in this photo.
I could be wrong but I do believe that he's handcuffed too.
MY guess is that the deputies don't want any sudden FLARE-UPS

http://www.kget.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_
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Alexia
Dec. 23, 2006, 2:27 p.m.
How sad he must have been to do this.
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jimmybob
Dec. 23, 2006, 2:58 p.m.
Let us bow our heads for a moment of silence...now if it was just an ACLU Lawyer....

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  LordyLordy
  Dec. 23, 2006, 5:40 p.m.
  Maybe that's the problem? When you bow your head for a moment of silence, you are talking to nobody and getting help from nobody? He had nothing to ground himself on, nor to put a knot at the end of his rope. In a moment of silence only the voice of depression speaks in this case and its message is always the same.
  His family should file a lawsuit against the ACLU! They've led many down this same path. If they were truly the ACLU they would be fighting and supporting the rights of those who want to pray, and telling those who don't to simply have that moment of silence, in respect for the rights of those who want to pray.
  
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    lfergie812
    Dec. 23, 2006, 5:54 p.m.
    Maybe I'm missing something in this story but where does the ACLU have anything to do with this story?? Are you and jimmybob on the right story or do you have so much hate for the ACLU that you would blame them for the actions of someone else?? I'm surprised that you didn't blame Clinton for this.
    
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      LordyLordy
      Dec. 23, 2006, 7:48 p.m.
      Hey, the rumor is that Bill gave him the gasoline and George gave him the match? At least he didn't get shot in the face and they didn't mysteriously find him on the white house lawn?
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      SpazMat
      Dec. 24, 2006, 2:32 p.m.
      And I'm suprised you don't blame GW for this! The name of the judge who helped put him out was Bush. I'm sure the rest of the conspiricy is self-evident.
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    LABELDUDE
    Dec. 23, 2006, 7:07 p.m.
    "moment of silence"? I'd feel fortunate if that's all we ever heard from Christians. Instead this tax-subsidized foolishness is loud, never-ending and irritating. Christians question their own beliefs and must torment normal folks with constant self-reassuring jabberings. They're enough to make you want to set yourself on fire.
    
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      LordyLordy
      Dec. 23, 2006, 7:51 p.m.
      Be careful....there are some in here who would hand you a match? Not me though. I'm down to my last match and yule log and I'd rather use it on the log. It's sad that all you see is a message of hate. It's far from that, but at Christmas all the greedy business owners are doing their best to get your last dollar. I rather think Christ would have thrown these folks out of the temple? For Christmas I gave my daughter a very pretty box, with nothing inside, and a card on the outside which said, "this gift has nothing inside but my love." That has always been sufficient for me.
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      warandpeace
      Dec. 23, 2006, 8:49 p.m.
      GO FOR IT..
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supabro15
Dec. 23, 2006, 3:13 p.m.
"Let us bow our heads for a moment of silence...now if it was just an ACLU Lawyer...."
not funny, rude, and doesnt support anything in the thread?
if im not mistaken, this happened alot back in the 60's from protesting budhists (sp?). i will support a person to protest their beleifs, but not in this way....thats just stupid.
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Harbeas
Dec. 23, 2006, 3:22 p.m.
Maybe he thought there would be 72 virgins waiting for him in another place. With the intelligence this man displayed, the world might be better off without him.

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  spectrum
  Dec. 23, 2006, 3:47 p.m.
  In my lifetime I became "close" friends with three virgins. I cannot imagine what another 69 might do. The immaculate three almost ruined me.
  
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    ldstennisgeek
    Dec. 23, 2006, 4:59 p.m.
    what in the world does that mean?
    
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      LordyLordy
      Dec. 23, 2006, 5:42 p.m.
      Them three gals that were supposed to follow me wherever I go, I think they are slow walkers because I haven't caught sight of them in a while? ...you know, old Shirley, Goodness, and Mercy?
      
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        ldstennisgeek
        Dec. 23, 2006, 10:07 p.m.
        Yeah, no idea what you are talking about
        
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        Ebonvoice
        Dec. 24, 2006, 12:51 a.m.
        Harbeas' comment was a crass reference to the Islamic faith and one interpretation of the afterlife.
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  jehovahjones
  Dec. 24, 2006, 12:30 a.m.
  .. same goes for you. here's a match
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ldstennisgeek
Dec. 23, 2006, 3:24 p.m.
lol that was funny Harbeas, and I think you may be right!
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Peytonownsyou
Dec. 23, 2006, 3:29 p.m.
*shudders*
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JohnBryansFontaine
Dec. 23, 2006, 3:31 p.m.
The irony and disconnect of Dibbons comments is hilarious. After condemning some PC Stalinist shmucko-brain to damnation, Dibbons writes about 'charity, about love and happiness'. I guess that mercy has nothing to do with these values.
As a Liberal, I love Christmas, for I believe it's the most Liberal time of the year. People are encouraged to give, especially to the poor, office parties mean that the abstinence crowd has to shut up, and the international flavor of the holiday also means that the nationalist crowd needs to shut up as well.
So wishing Good Will to All ( a.k.a. wishing none eternal damnation ) Merry Christmas to everyone. Even the crispy PC Loony Lad and Dibbons.
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AJaye
Dec. 23, 2006, 3:57 p.m.
Wow !!! What a hot way to express your anger...Merry Christmas to all...