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Posted by: Alexia 1 year, 10 months agoWASHINGTON - Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), a front-runner among GOP presidential contenders for 2008, said Sunday the U.S. must send an overwhelming number of troops to stabilizeIraq or face the possibility of more attacks in the region and on American soil.ADVERTISEMENT"I believe the consequences of failure are catastrophic. It will spread to the region. You will seeIran more emboldened. Eventually, you could see Iran pose a greater threat to the state ofIsrael," said McCain, R-Ariz.
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bombay
Nov. 19, 2006, 10:18 p.m.McCaine must be crazy. It is amazing that did not learn his lesson when serving in Vietnam war. Those gookies taught him a good lesson. And now iraqis are going to do the same. Everyday officially 10 American GIs are killed there, unofficially the toll is even higher. And who are dying? Mostly Blacks, Hispanics and poor whites who are high school dropouts, economic underdogs who cannot find jobs elsewhere and join the army for the sake of bread and ultimately losing their lives. It was wrong in the first place to get involved in such costly war against the opinion of the World and United Nation when they could not find any trace of WMD in Iraq. It is only the greed for oil that will push U.S. on the brinks of ruin ultimately.
Sanjay Goswami, Houston, Texas.
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milspece6
Nov. 20, 2006, 7:26 p.m.McCain is definitely out of his mind> He doesn't know anything about the military just because he was a bad pilot in the Navy. I believe that we should give the Iraqi's until the 31st of December of this year and then have a mass exit. I spent three times longer in Vietnam than McCain and I don't know enough to run the country. Iraq was wrong and the past vote proved it.
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cheif
Nov. 20, 2006, 12:50 a.m.Bombay...you have to be a product of public schools...where
do you get your information?
Vietnam - American dead, 53000, Cong dead, over 1,000,000.
Yea, we left; didn't lost a damn thing.
Who is dying in Iraq? Mostly Iraqis!!!
In the event you can't read, we're using an ALL VOLUNTEER army. It's mostly white, educated volunteers - yes, there are black, hispanic, Asian, etc...but they're there because they WANT TO BE!!!
Is the war wrong? Damn right..but let them pull the plug on the oil pipes and watch you scream!!! Did you like $5.00 gas?
It could happen again...real soon. America is slowing being convinced we need alternative fuels and the oil companies see possible competition...that's why the price of gas is down right now...they don't want to scare us away. So, do we
need to ensure the flow is uninterruped??? Yep...till we can get independence here...remember it's your greed for oil
that drives this thing...also remember you don't have a choice right now...
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samsara15
Nov. 20, 2006, 9:22 a.m.Private school snob. Must be nice to be born rich.
We lost a lot of lives in Vietnam, and ruined even more with crippling injuries. Some of them were draftees.
You're right, $5.00 gas is coming.
A lot of reservists don't want to be there, but some of them are, understandably (if you've ever been in the military, you know why) relucant to speak out.
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Natureboy
Nov. 20, 2006, 9:08 a.m.The McCain logic- "What we need to put out this fire is more gasoline, a LOT more gasoline!" What an idiot.
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Rroht
Nov. 20, 2006, 1:06 p.m.You're wrong.
If you want to see a massacre - lots of bodies - then withdraw from Iraq.
The enemy will be ready to strike down our retreating forces. This is a characteristic of withdrawing, not an opinion.
And, by the way, once we have withdrawn, where do you think terrorism will go? Away? If you believe that, you are foolish.
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mykidsmum
Nov. 20, 2006, 1:17 p.m.No more to Iraq. Bring our boys home. We can see they can't act on their own, they need someone to hold their hand. THey want their freedom, but not willing to pay the price, but willing to allow our boys to pay it for them..... wrong... we don't have enough resources or people to do it for them, and if we send more troops and more years, it will end up like Vietnam.... haven't we learnt our lesson.. we making the same mistake. We can show the Iraqis the way to govern themeselves, but we cannot do it for them, (then they'd say we were occupying).. they have to stand on their own two feet, and the only way is to leave, and they'll either sink or swim... if they want democracy - they'll earn it themselves not through the blood and sweat of our troops.
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Rroht
Nov. 20, 2006, 1:20 p.m.Hey mykidsmum:
When one of your kids can't seem to act on their own, do you also abandon them?
Iraq's government is like a kid right now. They are brand new to democracy. I'll remind you we were kids over 200 years ago.
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mykidsmum
Nov. 20, 2006, 1:34 p.m.No, I don't abandon my kids. One of mine is in the AirForce right now.... the issue is Iraq is not one of OUR KIDS. It belongs to Iraq. We have enough 'kids' here to take care of in our own backyard., i.e. immigration, povety, flooding, fires, etc. Lets take care of our own first... who made the US the 'parent' of all these other countries.
Yes, its been just over 200 years, and have we got it right yet? We need to make our own right first before we impose it on other countries.
Just because it works for one country doesn't mean it works for all...
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Daylight
Nov. 20, 2006, 1:27 p.m.You are defeated even with any number of troops, it won't make a difference, it is going to be death and destruction, the longer you wait the more you die. You just went in there you had no plan, you saw the oil and money in your pocket at the expense of the Americans and the Iraqis, all you want is dominance, you can stay the course for few more years until you come to your senses.
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Rroht
Nov. 20, 2006, 1:31 p.m.Daylight,
Please define defeat and victory.
Obviously, you can't define one without the other. And if you're smart, you'll figure out why you are wrong.
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Daylight
Nov. 20, 2006, 1:35 p.m.Rroht
(You're wrong.
If you want to see a massacre - lots of bodies - then withdraw from Iraq.
The enemy will be ready to strike down our retreating forces. This is a characteristic of withdrawing, not an opinion.
And, by the way, once we have withdrawn, where do you think terrorism will go? Away? If you believe that, you are foolish.)
If it is not massacre what is it happening there, when you are the terrorist, the terrorism can't go anywhere, that will be there in you, what makes you think you are different from terrorist your leaders are fooling you because you are fool.
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Rroht
Nov. 20, 2006, 2:29 p.m."If it not massacre what is it happening there?"
A new, struggling, democracy.
"...when you are the terrorist,the terrorism can't go anywhere..."
Tell that to Spain...or the families of 9/11.
"What makes you think you are different from terrorist..."
I can only guess why you hate the United States, but I can answer your question.
How U.S. is different from terrorists:
1. We allow people to worship other religions.
2. We do not kill people who worship other religions.
3. We allow you the freedom to read any books you choose.
4. We allow you the freedom to express yourself.
5. We give women the same rights as a man.
That's just a few...shall I go on?
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Daylight
Nov. 20, 2006, 1:39 p.m.Rroht
Daylight,
Please define defeat and victory.
Obviously, you can't define one without the other. And if you're smart, you'll figure out why you are wrong.
A super power fighting for the last five years and the result is zero; if this is not defeat what is it.
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Rroht
Nov. 20, 2006, 2:15 p.m.Well, if you equate establishing a democratic government and capturing their leader as a zero result, I can see your problem.
You obviously, do not understand the concept of the number ZERO.
But let me help you. Victory will be when Iraq can sustain their own government. Obviously, defeat would be if Iraq cannot.
Your position is to pull out of Iraq and CREATE defeat. My position would be to ACHEIVE victory.
My plan is the only plan which can lead to victory. Do you now see why you are mistaken?
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mykidsmum
Nov. 20, 2006, 2:45 p.m."Victory will be when Iraq can sustain their own government. Obviously, defeat would be if Iraq cannot."
Iraq will not (does not want to) sustain their own government. Why should they, let the infidels come and lose their lives, and we they leave they will put another 'leader' in Suddam's place (may be not as destructive, but a dictator just the same). That's the only life they know.
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Rroht
Nov. 20, 2006, 2:54 p.m.mykidsmum,
I couldn't quite understand the statement, but I think I understant your point. You're suggesting that Iraq does not want to sustain their government and wants to be ruled by a dictator.
That's an interesting theory, and I would be open to any proof you could provide.
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mykidsmum
Nov. 20, 2006, 3:09 p.m.Only time will tell, but I'm not willing to gamble with any more US lives to find out. We've lost too many young men who have not had a chance to enjoy life (the way we mean life) as to those in Iraq who think the only 'life' is 'life after death' with 74 virgins... (I think we've run out of virgins by now, will they take any used ones?)
Its true only the good die young... let our boys live.. in this country.. Let Iraq be Iraq.. whatever type of ruler Saddam was (dictator, demigod, despot), that's all the people know.. they don't know how to govern themselves.
THey say they want help, but their own people are fighting us, not the insurgents.... they hide the insurgents and then say "I didn't know - he's my cousin". Their way of thinking is different to our, its like trying to get a left handed person to write with their right hand... totally foreign.
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Rroht
Nov. 20, 2006, 3:17 p.m.If your proof is "Only time will tell", I'm sadly disappointed in it.
Needless to say, I'm not convinced.
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mykidsmum
Nov. 20, 2006, 4:32 p.m.No, not just only time will tell, what proof do you have they want us there? talk is cheap, they talk but don't do anything, their people hide, their understanding of discipline is 'foreign' to them, they're used to corruptness, and don't know how to be honest. they'll need their hand held even (when)if we leave.. thats been par for the course, of every nation the US has been in, and to what cost (hundreds of our young men lost).
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looter
Nov. 21, 2006, 10:57 a.m.McCain sounds like a kid who lost the race who won't accept it. He have no idea what is going on in Iraq. There is no victory in Iraq as there is no Iraq. We broke it up into three pieces, for that we have only one group of people to blame. People like McCain who saw a war like this in which we were bled to our knees. That is what is happening even in Iraq. A phased withdrawal must start soon and we should be out of that place before spring time. There will be chaos there but we have nothing to do with that. There will a lot of political heckling, but let us watch this at bay and make sure to occasionally go into Iraq and take out the Al-Qaeda leaders with pin pointed strikes. No one will blame us for that. So its time to move the 'Green Zone' to Kuwait or Saudi Arabia.
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