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Iraqi Forced to Drink Soldier's Urine »
Posted by: Neophile 1 year, 10 months agoAn Iraqi civilian was forced to drink the urine of a soldier, a court has heard. Muhanned Thaher Abdullah Al-Mansouri said soldier's forced him to lie face-down over a festering toilet for three hours in soaring temperatures.
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ck
Oct. 24, 2006, 12:54 p.m.Hi David, If you read further in the article, one of the British soldiers has already pleaded guilty to the charges of abuse, so it would seem that the title of the story has some basis in fact.
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deathray
Oct. 23, 2006, 12:42 p.m.Ugh...if this story is true, it's appalling. And guess what, it's torture too.
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dr-don-from-denver
Oct. 23, 2006, 12:50 p.m.The only "consolation" is it was a Brit this time, not one of ours!!
According to Bush, that's NOT touture, since he's still alive, and had no major organ failure, right?
Like ANYONE would give accurate info. to someone who treated them like that! I would hope my answer would be "Fu*k You!" right to my last breath!
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mozzer
Oct. 23, 2006, 12:47 p.m.I was appalled up until this quote:
"the doctor said he would bring oxygen but instead sprayed fly killer in his face and started laughing."
I can't help but feel he's embellishing at that point.
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dr-don-from-denver
Oct. 23, 2006, 12:58 p.m.mozz -- Sure, people who beat prisoners to death would NEVER use fly spray!
OOPs! --I forgot, that was OUR CIA contractors, NOT the Brits--sorry, Queeny!
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dr-don-from-denver
Oct. 23, 2006, 7:36 p.m.This story is nothing compared to:
And that's a confession from a BBC story.
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_kam0_
Oct. 24, 2006, 8:34 a.m.Err, The Daily Telegraph is a right wing conservative paper in the UK, always has been. Also, it is highly reputable and very unlikely to make up propaganda particularly against the nation's armed forces.
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4cprocess
Oct. 24, 2006, 12:49 p.m.DocJ:
I couldn't agree more. Maybe the British press might grow some "you know what" and take the tapes of torture and air in on British television? I doubt it.
or better yet, send it to CNN, they'll air anything, right?
It just kills me how they splash all this b*llsh*t all over the press, and trust me, I'm not saying it's all false but let's be honest and at least give the other side of the story. Show the beheadings, give the details of what they do when they capture one of our boys!
But then again that wishfull thinking when you're talking about the media monsters of today. Keep stoking the fire guys.
In God We Trust
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Dobes_Rule
Oct. 23, 2006, 12:47 p.m.Luckily we're democratizing them.....a little urine here, a little bondage there, some nasty dogs, and voila, Democracy for one and all!
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dr-don-from-denver
Oct. 23, 2006, 12:59 p.m.A little song, a little dance, a little urine in -- no, it was seltzer.... Damn! Sorry, Mary!
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mozzer
Oct. 23, 2006, 2:38 p.m.Yes, but perhaps I was unclear.
When reading the article, the iraqi describes indignity after indignity, but "fly spray" part seems perfunctory, almost tacked on. I don't know, it just doesnt seem to fit in with the rest of his claims. I'm speaking from personal opinion, limited to the scope of the article.
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deathray
Oct. 23, 2006, 2:56 p.m.yes.
i have heard of Josef Mengele...I am not trying to justify this behavior; I was hoping beyond hope that we had moved past that kind of medical barbarity.
And I continue to agree with mozzer; I find it difficult to believe that a modern medical doctor, summoned by British troops, would spray fly spray into the open mouth of an asthmatic.
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mozzer
Oct. 23, 2006, 3:31 p.m.You what, I just got it, I'd forgotten its Int'l Caps Lock Day. Where are my manners.
AHHH MUCH BETTER!!! CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW??? GOOD!!!!
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angermanagement
Oct. 23, 2006, 3:23 p.m.OH WELL, AT LEAST HE WASN'T BEHEADED. IT WAS PROBABLY MOUNTAIN DEW. THE FRIGGIN' CAMEL JOCKEYS WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS ANYWAY!!!!!!!
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dr-don-from-denver
Oct. 23, 2006, 6:58 p.m.Angerm--You show your total ignorance with your racist crap!
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ThankYou
Oct. 23, 2006, 3:27 p.m.Maybe the so called "dotor" was NOT a doctor after all...
Anyway:
NO EXCUSES WHATSOEVER
I would be ashamed of being British, and asked for severe punishment of whoever in the British army does not abide by international law.
But I am simply a democracy and justice lover.
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ThankYou
Oct. 23, 2006, 3:33 p.m.Angermanagement.
Why dont's you get some anger management???
Are you saying that because some lunatic terrorist beheaded a British citizen for no reason, it gives the right to any Birtish soldier to torture a 17 years old boy who happened to be at the wrong place????
Let's go to Ireland and torture the first 17 year old Irish that we find in a 100m radious of an IRA weapons cache.
BTW: I believe in fair trial: get the guy to court:
- if found guilty of killing civilians, then hang the bastard,
- if not apologize and send him back home!
And stop acting like Hafez el Assad (may his soul burn in hell for all eternity).
Once he lost his watch, and told his head of Mokhabarat (secret services) about this. 48 hours later he finds his watch again in the bathroom.
He says to the head of Moukhabarat that there is no need to find any "criminal" his watch was not stolen.
The head of Moukhabarat answers: but we already have 3 people's confessions!!!
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endofdays
Oct. 23, 2006, 3:51 p.m.I drank my own urine by mistake once...
If not for the anonimity of the internet I'd probably never admit it, but its true. Spring 1987. I was driving from Boston to CO to go skiing with three friends in an old beat up van. All of us had pee bottles so we didn't have to stop every ten minutes. I was using an empty water bottle - the exact same kind of bottle my water was in. It was about two in the morning. I had just woken up in the back of the van, all crumpled and crusty mouthed. I took what I thought was my water bottle from my pack...
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Neophile
Oct. 23, 2006, 3:54 p.m.I hope you don't mind if I laugh but LOL. Great story. That is brutal. I am thankful for the anonimity of the internet.
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SouthernBoy
Oct. 23, 2006, 10:57 p.m.Endofdays, I happened to be drinking some tea when my eyes ran across that first line of yours. I literally choked on my drink and started coughing.....
I'm very glad I've never done anything like that.
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Silverghost
Oct. 23, 2006, 5:09 p.m.I find it hard to believe the story of this Iraqi as it's told. It does seem to be embellished beyond what might have happened. There is a clear desire among certain individuals to grandstand events, in order to incite riots.
Since one Brit soldier admitted to inhumane treatment to detainees, there may be some truth to the charge. But bear in mind that the "suspected insurgent" could be guilty of more heinous crimes, so he might have a vested interest in making the Brits look truly bad. Not to excuse torture, but the treatment needs to be found out in court as to the severity of it. The 6 others accused deny guilt to the charges.
Isn't it amazing that no outrage is made over the Iraqis killing Iraqis? It evidently is justified in some minds. -Rev. S
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koranagirl
Oct. 24, 2006, 1:05 p.m.I bet you don't believe the holocaust either, or the fact that Hitler killed even more Russians (7 million) than Jews. What outrage should anyone show? It was predicted by major political scientists that Iraq would erupt into a massive civil war if the US went in there, and that's what has happened. The country is a disaster. SH, as horrid as he was, was holding it together by a thread. The Iraqis are poor and uneducated. What did anyone expect? And staying or leaving, both would be a disaster, but I bet we stay for the vast untapped oil reserves the politician can divert to their cronies.
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PinkyPie
Oct. 23, 2006, 5:17 p.m.Urine therapy is an acknowledged treatment among some who practice alternative medicine...
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dr-don-from-denver
Oct. 23, 2006, 7:03 p.m.Another reason to stick (no pun) to "real" (scientifically proven)medicine!
Many of the OTC and internet-purchased "magic cure" capsules have been found to be full of floor sweepings, rat feces, etc. Buyer beware!
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DuduFischer
Oct. 23, 2006, 6 p.m.I was the unfortunate recipient of a big, tasty swig of my friend's tobacco spit from a beer bottle at a pool hall. Its rancid taste was only surpassed by its chunky sliminess.
As churning an experience as that was, I can't imagine having to endure what this kid went through. I understand the concept that a serviceman stationed overseas, dealing with daily wartime stress can be pushed into a fearful, angry place that would give one horrific inclinations. Nevertheless, this man's actions are inexcusable.
...just my $0.02.
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zac7
Oct. 23, 2006, 6:03 p.m.This is probably made up bull to make a few bucks off the US, besides i hate Iraqis i would ****** in his mouth and then take a large crap in his hair and then smear all over his body. Then i would force him to drink from the so called toilet. While I took another very large crap in the face of his two children and ugly disgusting wife.
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dr-don-from-denver
Oct. 23, 2006, 7:16 p.m.Sorry you didn't have time to READ the piece before engaging that mouth! I guess you are a non-reader - one of those children "left behind"!!! Did you dictate your comment to someone who could write?
They were BRITS, you a**hole!
You just described the hell you will have to suffer for your racism!!
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tehranchik
Oct. 23, 2006, 7:33 p.m.This comment from zac upsets me almost as much as the article. How could this much hate and violence come from one human being?
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zac7
Oct. 23, 2006, 6:06 p.m.middleshadow do not compare this to a concentration camp, do not at all, this is made up bull s***.
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dr-don-from-denver
Oct. 23, 2006, 7:21 p.m.This is nothing compared to:
And thats a confession from a BBC story.
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